I have created this blog to allow others to view what exhibiting Mode One behaviour can have on you in REAL life. Not Fiction or written in a book, REAL LIFE.
I feel that the original conversation between us on Alan's forum will be lost for 'unknown reasons' and i wish for all readers to read without biased, see the logic and compare what i and Alan have said to form their own conclusion.
For the purposes of this conversation i will be AKA Manipulate_Her - the handle name i used on Alan's forum. You can call me Ghosty.
Enjoy:
Ghosty
First of all:
http://directdatingsummit.com/free-interviews-page/
Around 9 min mark, Alan mentions that he went Mode One on some chick in a grocery store and she started giving him a blowjob.
Hahahahaha wtf? Who buys this shit? There is NO WAY any girl would do that to a guy she'd just met and attempted fellatio in a fucking grocery store! If she did, she must have need some extra cash for dat dere crackalac! or DESPERATE.
Fucking pathetic that a lot of nerdy bitches actually fall for this shit.
Secondly:
I used to be MODE ONE. It was exhilerating at first. I loved it. On paper it made sense and i was getting shocked reactions from women! I really did love it. Then it went down hill. I realised it only worked on women who were desperate for attention, the women that wasn't as attractive as others so they wanted some lovin. Think about if fellas... think about it! What type of women does this WORK on?
I lost some of my female friends and i lost a decent reputation as being a nice, chilled guy that women liked to be around (i tried Mode One because i was experimenting with things and i got badly hooked) into a player, sex craved sociopath.
Even though i believed in honesty, the women never thought i was because they'd never met a guy like me. And they didn't want to get to know me for long. And don't say i'm doing this wrong Alan. Don't be a phaggot. I read your book countless times and watch/listened to a lot of David X. It all seems great on paper. In real life? The opposite for the above reasons. If you want to get a fuck this weekend from a desperate chick then do mode one. If you want to be more successful with DESIRABLE women, try this:
This works really well.
Here's the thing: Most guys, including me, thought that women LOVED a Player. WRONG! They love a guy who is successful around women. A Mode One guy is not because the women associate emotions of a Player with dishonesty, distrust and 'only after one thing' (which is the fucking opposite of what Mode One wanted to be).
I used to be very honest with women (Mode One). If i was interested i would tell them. If i was just after sex i would tell them. If i was not interested i would tell them. I got loads of numbers because the women loved my confidence. But i hardly ever got responses or went on dates. It really really p1ssed me off to the point where i just figured all women were weird.
What i had to do was NOT be so honest about everything. This my friends... IS THE REAL GAME. Fuck it, callit Mode FIVE.
You don't need to outright lie but don't be so upfront with what you want. When i was a 'player' i let them know exactly where they stood and what i wanted from them and all i concentrated on was escalating a girl to the point of smashing her pussy apart. This rarely worked. What i started doing was chilling the f*ck out and allowing her to think i would be a great boyfriend. Allowing her to believe she could be my girlfriend. Being all romantic and fun and not rushing into sex. You'll rarely have to wait long because she'll be that confortable with you she'll f*ck your brains out.
When you are Mode One all of these girls think of you as being a player and only after one thing. 95% of women do not just want sex. They want a lover, a partner. Especially in a school/work/close knit environment where people talk about each others lives and sh1t. These girls can't risk losing their rep for simply being another girl on that players list (The Mode One list). They like you, you may get numbers. They want something to happen, that's why they would give you their number (unless they're unbelievably drunk and don't know what they're doing). But when they have time on their own and get a chance to really think about it... Your rep will ruin theirs. The biggest thing to a woman is her rep. Call a women a slut and she'll hate you for it.
This is from experience. I lost a lot of good women all because i was too honest and only after one thing. Even if you are only after one thing, don't let her know about it. Older women can handle it more as they're bodies know they're running out of time to procreate but for most women and girls... you have to play it like you're their next boyfriend. This has worked really well for me. Before i got into Mode One i had a harem of about 4-5 girls i was seeing. Then i was seduced by the thoughts of Mode One and i hardly ever got women. I lost those girls. Then i started being a bit more manipultive and i'm sitting confortable with 3 girls at the minute.
Just try what i said. Allow them to believe you're not after sex and indeed after something a bit more. That's what the women want. When you've f*cked them and she finds out you're seeing others, she'll go apesh1t because she thought it was just you and her. She'll think you're a player... WHO CARES NOW? You've f**ked her already and i guarrentee if you still make her feel important to you and gave her great sex then you'll f*ck her many more times. As long as you've NOT actually said "Babe, i want a relationship with YOU" then you can blame it on her for thinking you were bf and gf. Allow them to believe what they want to believe in their own heads.
When you're seeing more than one woman every other woman to that women is a close friend. She see's you in the park with another girl, "she's a good friend of mine". Yeah but you were cuddling each other.... "She's a good friend of mine". Do you always hold hands and kiss your girl mates then... "Yeah, they're good friends of mine, but you're more important to me". The woman asking the questions is always the most important one.
Are you lying to them? Well... are you?... not if you never actually say "i want a relationship with you". If she ask's if you wanted a relationship with her then tell her not to rush so fast and just enjoy each other. Is it deception? Oh hell yes. But they deceive us everyday: fake hair, nails, tits, push up bras blah blah blah... We deceive each other. They deceive us with their bodies, we deceive them with our mouths.
Why does this work:
You're giving them what they want to hear.
You will still be known as a player 9every guy surrounded by women will be) but this time she will want to believe you more than her friends because as above, you're telling her what she wants to hear and her friends are telling her something she doesn't want to hear.
It keeps you more discreet. Keep it on the down-low always, this will lower your player rep.
Take what you want from this. But i'm definately more successful with women now. I've not even re invented the wheel. Casanovas, players, jocks, alphas have been doing this sh1t for ages because it works!
Now hit the gym, look more like a man and let them think you're the next best boyfriend! Then leave them if you get bored (they'd do the same to you).
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Alan
You know ... my first reaction was to BLAST YOU. And I mean, BLAST YOU GOOD.
But you know what? In your defense ... some of my own CLOSE FRIENDS, and even my own OLDER BROTHER were at one point, the exact same way. My older brother, Stephen, initially was like, "I don't believe that [upfront & sexually straightforward] approach can work with women. I believe most women will curse you out and then end the conversation."
It was only after he saw me in action that he became a believer. Later, my brother said, "Bro ... if I hadn't witnessed some of your Mode One seductions with my own eyes, I would have never believed some of them. Never." Speaking of my brother, he was there (at the grocery store). He didn't see her suck my dick in the grocery store, but he saw her suck my dick in her car after we both came out of the grocery store.
So, bottom line, I'm not going to blast you as originally intended. Truth? If I hadn't experienced some of my infamous seductions myself ... and some other guy told me similar stories ... I would probably be a wee bit skeptical too. Only when you have your own Mode One seductions will you be a believer.
I can't speak for you or your friends, but I've had Mode One Behavior work on all types of women. In terms of beauty, I've had Mode One work on 8s, 9s and 10s as effectively as it worked on 5s, 6s and 7s. In terms of education, I've had it work on women with Ph.D. degrees, M.D. degrees, J.D. degrees, MBAs, and other assorted degrees. In terms of age, I've had it work on women as young as 18 and as old as in their 40s. I've had it work on very religious women and women who were agnostic and/or atheist.
You must not be in the right place or socializing with the right women.
That sounds more like an INDIVIDUAL THING than a Mode One thing. I've been Mode One for over twenty years, and I still have quite of few platonic female friends. I still have a great reputation among most of the men and women I know. Here in the United States, I've even had CHURCH-GOING WOMEN support The Mode One Approach (see article by CLICKING HERE)
Don't blame Mode One Behavior for your problems. Your problems have been caused by YOU and YOUR OWN personality, character and behavior. And I will bet you money ... if you are into lying to women to get them in bed ... misleading women in order to get them in bed .... and manipulating women in order to get them into bed ... in the long-run, your reputation will suffer greatly for it. Guarantee you.
Right there ... you've proven why Mode One doesn't work for you. For you to feel the need to refer to me as a "phaggot" lets me know a lot about your character.
Here is your problem, in a nutshell: You want casual sex from women who really do not want to engage in casual sex. It's really that simple.
A lot of [manipulative] men are like this. They want to have short-term, non-monogamous sex with women who are looking for long-term, monogamous sex. And that my friend, is misleading, deceptive and manipulative.
I can tell by your user name ("Manipulate_Her") that this is your M.O. You should not even be on a "Direct Approach" message board. This site is not for you. You need to be with the "indirect" guys who are into what you are into.
I am not into misleading women, lying to women, and/or manipulating women in order to get them to have sex with me. If I can't get the pussy by simply being upfront and straightforwardly honest about my desires, interests and intentions ... then I don't want it.
You are lying. If you were regularly exchanging orgasms with 4-5 girls, why would you ever look for a different philosophy or belief system to begin with?!? That doesn't even make sense to me.
If I was exhibiting Mode Three Behavior ... and was able to have sex with 4-5 women regularly, why would I be motivated to modify my behavior? If I was exhibiting Mode Two Behavior ... and was able to have sex with 4-5 women regularly, why would I be motivated to modify my behavior?
The reason why most "indirect" guys transition into exhibiting "direct" behavior is because something about being "indirect" left them feeling unfulfilled, angry, frustrated, bitter and/or unethical and regretful.
Wow. So, you just believe in lying to women, misleading them, fucking them and then dumping them. That is sad dude. Real sad. If that is what you want to do ... more power to you, but I could never live my life like that. I know guys who have literally gotten killed because of misleading women. Have you seen the photo of the guy on the internet where the woman threw hot grease on his dick, and now his penis is forever damaged?? That happened because he was exhibiting behavior just like you.
I've sometimes fucked as many as four or five women from the same social circle with no problem being Mode One.
Dude .... you act like you just came up with something "new." Lying to women to get them in bed has been around for AGES. DECADES. CENTURIES. Are you kidding me??
Can you get some pussy from women by lying to them and misleading them? Sure you can. I've never said that you can't. Neither has David X.
What I found though, is that when you try to mislead and manipulate women ... you open yourself up to be misled and manipulated by them. If you think I'm lying, I have over 1000 Email messages with stories from frustrated, manipulated guys to prove it.
That's the main reason why I don't like "indirect" seduction techniques, and why I got away from exhibiting Mode Two and/or Mode Three Behavior. Did I get some pussy a few times being Mode Two? Yep. But for every 2 or 3 women I fucked, there were at least one or two women who caused me to waste time and/or money, and left me feeling angry, frustrated and bitter.
With Mode One, I never waste time and/or money on women who don't have a genuine interest in me. With Mode One, I'm never left feeling angry, frustrated or bitter.
How old are you? 20? 22? 25? 29? I guarantee you ... the minute you run across a woman who is a seasoned manipulator, your ass is going to get PLAYED. Trust me on this.
And also, one day ... one of these women you misled? She's going to just shoot you in the head. Hell hath no fury like a scorned woman.
Best of luck Mr. Mode Two/Mode Three.....
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Ghosty
Let me disect yours:
Ok. So this chick had no regard for her reputation? She right there and then said "yeah i don't mind giving strangers blowjobs. Hell, even your brother can watch and i've only just met him too". Seriously. Come on, Alan. You either a) found one of the VERY few girls that would do such an act, in this short time, to someone she barely knows, whilst a relative of the person (whom she also has only just met) watched?... As i've said, she was either DESPERATE or you picked up a hooker that night, bro.
You should probably write porn scripts. You'd be good at that.
"I can't speak for you or your friends, but I've had Mode One Behavior work on all types of women. In terms of beauty, I've had Mode One work on 8s, 9s and 10s as effectively as it worked on 5s, 6s and 7s. In terms of education, I've had it work on women with Ph.D. degrees, M.D. degrees, J.D. degrees, MBAs, and other assorted degrees. In terms of age, I've had it work on women as young as 18 and as old as in their 40s. I've had it work on very religious women and women who were agnostic and/or atheist."
"You must not be in the right place or socializing with the right women."
"That sounds more like an INDIVIDUAL THING than a Mode One thing. I've been Mode One for over twenty years, and I still have quite of few platonic female friends. I still have a great reputation among most of the men and women I know. Here in the United States, I've even had CHURCH-GOING WOMEN support The Mode One Approach (see article by CLICKING HERE)"
Of course the 'church going women' will support the Mode One principles. I think every woman would. They all say they want to see a guys true colours and want him to be genuine. No one WANTS to be manipulated or lied to. But every guy that has taken advice off of women will tell you one thing, women cannot give advice on picking up women. 99% of them only think they know what they want but in reality it's something quite different.
"Don't blame Mode One Behavior for your problems. Your problems have been caused by YOU and YOUR OWN personality, character and behavior. And I will bet you money ... if you are into lying to women to get them in bed ... misleading women in order to get them in bed .... and manipulating women in order to get them into bed ... in the long-run, your reputation will suffer greatly for it. Guarantee you."
Well, in the long run my reputation 'could' suffer, if i kept on breaking hearts. But i'm sure not as bad as my Mode One rep hahaha.
"Right there ... you've proven why Mode One doesn't work for you. For you to feel the need to refer to me as a "phaggot" lets me know a lot about your character."
And come on, ARC... Be Mode One about it. You shouldn't take it personally.
"Here is your problem, in a nutshell: You want casual sex from women who really do not want to engage in casual sex. It's really that simple.
A lot of [manipulative] men are like this. They want to have short-term, non-monogamous sex with women who are looking for long-term, monogamous sex. And that my friend, is misleading, deceptive and manipulative."
A lot of [manipulative] men are like this. They want to have short-term, non-monogamous sex with women who are looking for long-term, monogamous sex. And that my friend, is misleading, deceptive and manipulative."
Misleading, deceptive and manipulative???
I couldn't agree more
The thing is, i've learned to do it in a way that it doesn't seem so manipulative. I mentioned in my OP that i never actually say "I want a relationship with YOU". That's a bit too far and it a blatant lie. What i would say is things like "I love relationships etc" which i do. I just don't want one yet. She doesn't have to know that, does she? If she does, then i want every girl to be wearing stickers on the things she's used to make herself look more desirable that night. I can just imagine a girl standing there in the bar with her friends with stickers on them saying 'Fake tan, hair extentions, fake nails, teeth whitening, push up bra, hahaha.
"I can tell by your user name ("Manipulate_Her") that this is your M.O. You should not even be on a "Direct Approach" message board. This site is not for you. You need to be with the "indirect" guys who are into what you are into."
I have not come here for advice. If i did, of course i wouldn't be asking it here. I posted here to pull some of the wool away from some of the members eyes. Let them disregard my 'advice'. It is there cocks, not mine.
Who actually said i'm 'indirect'? Because i tell girls i find them attractive if i feel like it. I don't hide from the fact that i'm a sexual being. It's just there's usually no reason to bring it up initially. You can actually build underlying sexual tension when you dont come out and say it. In my experience, women love this.
"I am not into misleading women, lying to women, and/or manipulating women in order to get them to have sex with me. If I can't get the pussy by simply being upfront and straightforwardly honest about my desires, interests and intentions ... then I don't want it."
"You are lying. If you were regularly exchanging orgasms with 4-5 girls, why would you ever look for a different philosophy or belief system to begin with?!? That doesn't even make sense to me.
If I was exhibiting Mode Three Behavior ... and was able to have sex with 4-5 women regularly, why would I be motivated to modify my behavior? If I was exhibiting Mode Two Behavior ... and was able to have sex with 4-5 women regularly, why would I be motivated to modify my behavior?"
If I was exhibiting Mode Three Behavior ... and was able to have sex with 4-5 women regularly, why would I be motivated to modify my behavior? If I was exhibiting Mode Two Behavior ... and was able to have sex with 4-5 women regularly, why would I be motivated to modify my behavior?"
And i'm not lying haha. I had regular sex because my profession involved spending time around drunken women, being of very high value to them, and generally being decent looking. When i left my role, i then had to put in a bit of effort. Which is when i turned to your book. Then it went further down hill.
I hope that makes sense now.
lol no i haven't. But i don't date crazy bitches anyways.
"I've sometimes fucked as many as four or five women from the same social circle with no problem being Mode One."
I said at the bottom of my OP that i wasn't re-inventing the wheel. I thought you was an author? Is this the real ARC?
"What I found though, is that when you try to mislead and manipulate women ... you open yourself up to be misled and manipulated by them. If you think I'm lying, I have over 1000 Email messages with stories from frustrated, manipulated guys to prove it."
"That's the main reason why I don't like "indirect" seduction techniques, and why I got away from exhibiting Mode Two and/or Mode Three Behavior. Did I get some pussy a few times being Mode Two? Yep. But for every 2 or 3 women I fucked, there were at least one or two women who caused me to waste time and/or money, and left me feeling angry, frustrated and bitter."
"With Mode One, I never waste time and/or money on women who don't have a genuine interest in me. With Mode One, I'm never left feeling angry, frustrated or bitter."
"How old are you? 20? 22? 25? 29? I guarantee you ... the minute you run across a woman who is a seasoned manipulator, your ass is going to get PLAYED. Trust me on this."
"And also, one day ... one of these women you misled? She's going to just shoot you in the head. Hell hath no fury like a scorned woman."
Alan
I don't have time to respond to everything you said right now (90% chance, I will later on today or sometime tomorrow), but I do have a few quick things....
1) I never said that ALL women are interested in casual sex. Never. Show me on what page in my book, "Mode One," did I say that? Women are just like men. You have some looking for short-term, non-monogamous sex ... others looking for short-term, monogamous sex ... others looking for long-term, non-monogamous sex ... and a high percentage looking for long-term, monogamous sex.
The point of Mode One is to let women know YOUR interests so that they can let you know THEIRS. Most men do the opposite. They try to find out a woman's interest FIRST, and then adapt their behavior to that woman's interests. That is a recipe for wasting time and/or money.
2) Why if a woman wants to have sex with me fairly quickly, she is automatically "desperate?" Well ... what does that say about you and most men? Wouldn't you agree that the vast majority of men would want to have sex on the same day they first meet a woman if given the opportunity? Doesn't that make THEM desperate too?? Men, such as yourself, can be so hypocritical and contradictory, it's not even funny.
3) Calling me names, such as "phaggot," is not Mode One. Mode One is about being upfront & straightforward with your DESIRES, INTERESTS and INTENTIONS. Calling people names is MODE FOUR. Mode Four is when you are upfront and straightforward with subjective criticisms, harsh opinions and personal insults. Big difference between Mode One Behavior and Mode Four Behavior.
4) Your problem is what I already stated. You want to have short-term, non-monogamous sex with women who are looking for long-term, monogamous sex. Many men in society are like this. I'm not. When I want to have short-term, non-monogamous sex ... I look for a woman who wants the same thing. When I want short-term, monogamous sex ... I look for a woman who wants the same thing. When I want long-term, non-monogamous sex ... I look for a woman who wants the same thing. When I want long-term, monogamous sex ... I look for a woman who wants the same thing.
Get my point? That is called non-manipulative behavior.
Bottom line ... just because YOU didn't get the results you were looking for as a result of exhibiting Mode One Behavior doesn't mean other guys won't.
Your problems, disappointments and frustrations have more to do with YOU than any perceived flaws and/or weaknesses in The Mode One Approach.
Good day mate.....
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Ghosty
My apologies, i thought you mentioned that every woman wants casual sex. Regardless, every woman DOES want casual sex. Who in this world does not want casual sex. What's important is in what environment this casual sex is coming from. Most women prefer casual sex in a monogamous environment/relationship.
"2) Why if a woman wants to have sex with me fairly quickly, she is automatically "desperate?" Well ... what does that say about you and most men? Wouldn't you agree that the vast majority of men would want to have sex on the same day they first meet a woman if given the opportunity? Doesn't that make THEM desperate too?? Men, such as yourself, can be so hypocritical and contradictory, it's not even funny."
Here is where i agree with you - If a man who seeks a monogamous relationship enhibits Mode One behaviour it will have a higher success rate than a man looking for casual non monogamous sex (see the the reasons i mentioned in the previous paragraph).
I don't believe in monogamy, therefor me exhibiting Mode One behaviour wasn't as successful in comparison to what i do now.
Mode One behaviour from a man seeking non monogamous sex will get most of is success from 'desperate' women. I.E Women who do not have so much sexual options (unattractive).
Would i agree that men are desperate? Sometimes, perhaps. But at the end of the day it is the woman who chooses whether the sex will happen. I'm sure you agree with that.
"3) Calling me names, such as "phaggot," is not Mode One. Mode One is about being upfront & straightforward with your DESIRES, INTERESTS and INTENTIONS. Calling people names is MODE FOUR. Mode Four is when you are upfront and straightforward with subjective criticisms, harsh opinions and personal insults. Big difference between Mode One Behavior and Mode Four Behavior."
I believe i am not any of your 'Modes'.
"4) Your problem is what I already stated. You want to have short-term, non-monogamous sex with women who are looking for long-term, monogamous sex. Many men in society are like this. I'm not."
Women who seek long term monogamous sex are more attractive. They are attractive enough to have sexual options and random, casual sex would not appeal when they have men willing to give them what they truely want - long term monogamous sex and security.
"When I want to have short-term, non-monogamous sex ... I look for a woman who wants the same thing."
"When I want short-term, monogamous sex ... I look for a woman who wants the same thing."
"When I want long-term, non-monogamous sex ... I look for a woman who wants the same thing."
"When I want long-term, monogamous sex ... I look for a woman who wants the same thing."
As stated previously, i currently live in a City with a population of about 340,000. Half being women. Therefore 170,000 are women (estimation). I'd say i only wish to have sex with women who are 7, 8 , 9, 10's (although i hate grading women) and women of legal age and not over the age of 40. Therefor there are about 30,000 women who i could potentially find attractive enough to sleep with. I'd say, and this is probably not accurate, that perhaps 70% of the population are in a monogamous relationship/married. That leaves me with about 10,000 single women to search for. Then we introduce variables like will they find me attractive and are they seeking a monogamous relationship (which i believe most single women wish to find a serious partner).
The odds aren't looking too good. I don't want to spend my weekends looking for them when i can possibly be sexually intimate with the original 30,000. My odds in getting what i want have dramatically increased. If lived in a city like New York i would have a better number to work with in regards to finding the perfect women for what i want in an upfront, honest and straightforward manner. Unfortunately i don't.
Do you see my point?
Yes, what i am doing is probably inethical but i'm not a politician. I want sex. Women want security and monogamy. I don't judge them for that, it is their lives. I shall live mine. When most men meet women the women like to make their new partner 'wait' for sex (I often hear 'i usually make men wait a month before i have sex with them') is this not manipulation too?
In the words of Shakespeare "All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players".
"Your problems, disappointments and frustrations have more to do with YOU than any perceived flaws and/or weaknesses in The Mode One Approach."
Forgive me if i'm wrong, but isn't Mode One being "upfront & straightforward with your DESIRES, INTERESTS and INTENTIONS" and not apologising for your actions?
How many of you on this site are TRUELY honest with your desires, interests and intentions? How many of you walk up to a girl and say "Hi, i thought you looked hot so i wanted to see if you're up for fucking tonight"? in the day time, at the park. You crazy motherfuckers would be getting locked up! hahaha. If you're after sex and not being that upfront about it then you indeed do fear her response. It's ok though. I would fear her response, because unless she's desperate, its gonna be a bad one.
The people that practice this have probably lost so many decent women just because you were TOO FORWARD.
I really find it hard to believe that the people here actually act and practice what they preach. I really do. Because i've done this shit in the real world. I don't think many of you have experienced it enough. I did this for about a year. The results were not what i wanted. Hahah and don't give me no "you were doing it wrong, you had internal issues, you were being like Alan" - I was being ME! And i was a self assured, didn't give a fuck, direct motherfucker lol. Trust me on that one.
I'm getting much better results now than i would have done with Mode One. I could be bullshitting though. I could still be a virgin and i'm angry and turned into a MODE FOUR towards Alan. lol. Or i could be trying to show you an alternative. IMO, a MUCH BETTER alternative.
I don't want to argue about this forever. Just like me, most of you have been seduced by the ideology that ARC has shown you the light. I really did believe Mode One was the way. Oh if it was that easy. In the real world it's not so black and white. If you still think i'm in the wrong then so be it. I have simply given a little alternative instead of being a too forward, sex crazed socipath. Infact it is almost the opposite. Except i am still 'direct', but when the time is right or when i have no other ideas i can think of. Plus i like being 'direct'. It's fun.
Take what you want from my posts. But before you dismiss it, re read what i have mentioned. Read sexual biology for a bit, maybe the Red Queen. You'll understand a lot more. That is always your choice. Every badboy you've met (and i'm not talking about the dude who calls himself Badboy who tries to look and talk alpha hahaha idiot), every jock, every player, every womaniser, every ladies man that was around before this money spinning million dollar community was created ALL did it the way i am telling you (or very similar)
They're your dicks, fellas.
Mode One is a simple mindset designed for people who have nothing else, or believe they've not got anything else going for them. Or feel that this attitude will magically bed women over and get them wet instantly.
I wonder how many of you hit the gym and take real pride in your appearrance? Getting bigger and looking more masculine will do wonders for you.
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Alan
Before I respond further ... I want to see how you handle my "Hotel Room" scenario. This tells me a lot about the men I'm dealing with.
Read thoroughly Mr. "Manipulate_Her" .....
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Do most of you remember my "Hotel Scenario" from the former Direct-Method.com Forum?
That scenario ... probably more than any other ... is what demonstrates why Mode One Behavior is necessary and effective.
The set-up:
Let's say you get invited to a hotel. On your floor are six women. If you use your time efficiently, you will get ONE HOUR to converse with ALL SIX WOMEN (an average of 8 or 9 minutes with each woman). Some women you might end up talking to for MORE than 8 or 9 minutes, while other women you may end up talking to for LESS than 8 or 9 minutes.
Each woman has different desires, interests, and motivations, but YOU DON'T KNOW THAT before you talk to them. Only by conversing with them do you find out what their motivations are.
Here is a capsule of each woman:
Woman #1: This attractive woman prefers to engage in a long-term, monogamous relationship with you .... but she would settle for a few weeks or 2-3 months of casual, non-monogamous sex with you;
Woman #2: This attractive woman only wants to have a long-term, monogamous relationship with you. Casual sex is not even an option;
Woman #3: This attractive woman would have a one-night stand with you or weekend fling with you at the drop of a dime ... but she does not like to be thought of as a "whore," a "slut," or an "easy lay";
Woman #4: This attractive woman wants to have a threesome with you and her best girlfriend, but she's not going to just "volunteer" this information; You have to be bold and charming enough to get this information from her.
Woman #5: This attractive woman wants to have an enjoyable, lengthy, entertaining conversation with you .... but she has no desire to date you and/or have sex with you; She's just bored and has some time to kill.
Woman #6: This attractive woman has no desire to date you and/or have sex with you .... but she does want you to treat her to lunch, treat her to dinner, and generally spend money 'wining & dining' her until she gets bored with you and moves on to the next guy who is willing to spend money on her and buy her gifts without her having to give up any pussy; She is going to do her best to PRETEND as though she is interested in you, but in actuality, she barely wants to even tongue kiss you;
Now .... again ... you have NO IDEA what woman has what motivation when you talk to them. You will only find that out by having a conversation with each one. And remember ... you only have approximately 60-65 minutes to converse with ALL SIX WOMEN.
What approach would you use to find out each woman's true motivations??
The ANSWER TO THE ABOVE QUESTION allows you to get to the core reason why Mode One Behavior is both NECESSARY and EFFECTIVE ....
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Let me know how you would handle this scenario Manipulate_her ....
Not true at all. Mode One Behavior is for men who either already have balls, or want to develop big balls. Men who have to lie to women to get them in bed ... mislead women to get them in bed ... manipulate women (as your user name suggests) to get them in bed ... have no balls. It's the equivalent to 'sucker punching' someone (i.e., hitting a guy from behind, or from his side, when he doesn't know you're about to hit him). That's what all "indirect" methods are. They are the attraction & seduction equivalent to 'sucker punching' a woman. That is WEAK.
You don't have any balls dude. Grow some.
Secondly, Mode One Behavior is for guys who hate wasting time and/or money pursuing women who are not genuinely interested in them.
When you are indirect, you inevitably end up wasting a lot of time ... and usually, investing a lot of money "wining & dining" and shit like that.
You are so wrong. It takes no "strength," confidence or balls to attract & seduce women by lying to them, misleading them and/or manipulating them. I say that in my book. That is WEAK.
For example, if a man has three different sex partners ... and all three of those women knows that he is having sex with other women ... and they're still down for sleeping with him, that is a true player.
But if a man has three different sex partners ... and all three of those women THINK they are his exclusive girlfriend? That is weak.
Mode One Behavior has not produced the results you wanted it to. So yes ... who are you to criticize and judge those who have produced favorable results from exhibiting Mode One Behavior?
You don't have to walk up to a woman and immediately say, "We should fuck tonight" in order to be Mode One. Now ... just for the record ... I have done that. I have approached a woman, and thirty seconds into the conversation, I have said things like, "I can't wait to see my dick in your mouth...." Usually though, the first thing I want to identify when I first approach a woman is a) is she single? (I don't pursue women in relationships) and b) does she want to share my company one-on-one in the near future. If a woman is single, and she expresses interest in sharing my company one-on-one in the near future, then that is when I will usually express my sexual desires, interests and intentions to her.
A man never "loses decent women" because he is "too forward." Women only lose interest in you because a) they're simply not attracted to you and/or b) they don't have the same desires, interests and intentions that you do.
Did you waste any time while you were Mode One? Did you waste any money? That is more important than analyzing how much pussy you got or didn't get. I tell men all of the time: Getting laid is NOT the #1 objective for exhibiting Mode One Behavior. At least for me, it's not. I say that in my book. Getting laid is the "frosting on the cake." The "fringe benefit." The #1 reason why I exhibit Mode One Behavior is to quickly and effectively identify what I refer to as "manipulative game players" or "manipulative time wasters." That is my main reason. Mode Two doesn't help you identify those types. Neither does Mode Three. Only Mode One Behavior helps you identify game players and time wasters.
So you say. I have to take your word for it ... since this is the Internet.
You could just be a Mode One "hater" (i.e., harsh critic)
The one comment you have made so far that we both 100% agree on.
You are wishy-washy. Your behavior is essentially Mode Two. That is what a Mode Two guy does ... he "blends" indirect behavior with certain instances of direct behavior. You are a classic Mode Two Pleasant Postponer.
Not true. I know more womanizers who I have met who were Mode One than those who were not. Just about all pimps and true players are Mode One. You will never catch a guy who is a true player or pimp lying to women or misleading them. Have you ever read the book about Iceberg Slim ... a famous pimp? He said in an interview, and I believe even in his book, that he would walk up to a woman and say, "Do you want to be one of my whores?" Now if that is not Mode One, I don't know what is. If you're not being direct, you're simply being a lying womanizer (a.k.a. "dog" or cheater).
I say again ... if whatever methods and techniques are working for you ... and producing the results you desire ... more power to you. But don't come on here trying to identify flaws and weaknesses with The Mode One Approach. I will break you down every time. Trust me on that....
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Ghosty
I WOULD USE THE MODE ONE APPROACH!!
Now here is why.
There is a time limit (60 minutes). The only other time that there would be a 'time limit' in real life is if i was on vacation. I haven't got time to play it cool and smooth. There's no need to anyways as i'm not staying there long. Anyone who has had sex on holiday will agree, women are finally allowed to be their naturally sluty selves. It's the one time that men won't judge them and they can let their hair down. They live by the notion "what happens on holiday, stays on holiday". There is no need to play it smooth. Being Mode One here will probably be more beneficial. I was more Mode One on my last holiday and i did fuck.
In a place where i FREQUENT on a regular basis, or in a city that i LIVE in and know people, playing the more chilled 'perfect boyfriend' is much more successful and less damaging to your reputation. In a city where these women live, they CANNOT afford to be known as the local slut hense why they have their 'i make a guy wait a month before we have sex' attitude on. And they don't mka eyou wait that long, even when you say 'that's fine babe, i know it'll be good sex. wheneve you're ready'. She has that natural slut urging away inside her to jump on your cock, so you won't be waiting that long.
Let me just quote something:
"Each woman has different desires, interests, and motivations, but YOU DON'T KNOW THAT before you talk to them"
Let me repeat that:
In fact, the most common type of woman is EXACTLY woman #1 in your hotel.
A very very very high percentage, Alan. You can't argue with that.
Now, tell me. If i'm after non-monogamous sex long term then by me being Mode One and telling her "i do not seek monogamy and only want casual sex" - do you think woman #1 AKA a very very high percentage of the female population, will be up for having sex with me as a casual thing? The very odd time, MAYBE. But if i play it like i'm the right person for her I.E i can provide security and monogamy - BOOM! If she's attracted to me physically, then i'm getting laid by pretty much everyone of them. Because i let them think what they want to think!
"You are so wrong. It takes no "strength," confidence or balls to attract & seduce women by lying to them, misleading them and/or manipulating them. I say that in my book. That is WEAK."
"For example, if a man has three different sex partners ... and all three of those women knows that he is having sex with other women ... and they're still down for sleeping with him, that is a true player."
Think about it - What girl, looking for security and mongamy, would want to give herself away to a man who only wants sex from her?
Now tell me - What girl, looking for security and monogamy, would want to give herself away to a man who appears to be a really decent boyfriend?
Tell me which one would be a lot more successful? The Mode One approach the first time or the way i did it the second time?
I rest my case. Don't say i'm looking for the wrong types of women because you're right. It just so happens that most of the attractive and more common types of girls are the ones that seek something that i don't want. But such is life... I found a way around that.
"But if a man has three different sex partners ... and all three of those women THINK they are his exclusive girlfriend? That is weak."
"You don't have to walk up to a woman and immediately say, "We should fuck tonight" in order to be Mode One. Now ... just for the record ... I have done that. I have approached a woman, and thirty seconds into the conversation, I have said things like, "I can't wait to see my dick in your mouth...." Usually though, the first thing I want to identify when I first approach a woman is a) is she single? (I don't pursue women in relationships) and b) does she want to share my company one-on-one in the near future. If a woman is single, and she expresses interest in sharing my company one-on-one in the near future, then that is when I will usually express my sexual desires, interests and intentions to her."
I also screen for the same things but i do it without coming across like a sexed craved juggernaut who has just been let out of prison for multiple rape.
I don't get numbers, i give my number so i don't waste my time texting a girl who has no intention or texting me.
I don't take NO SHIT from a girl disrespecting me. If i'm with a girl and she is flirting with another guy, maybe dancing and grinding on each other infront of me, i'd tell him to stop before we start fighting and tell her it was disrespectful and she's out of my life. If she chases then so be it, i'll decide if her blowjobs were good enough to give her a second chance. If she doesn't chase, they she didn't like me much anyways. Win-Win.
Alan, why did you believe that little old you could change hundreds of years of social conditioning, behaviours learned from her own parents, societal judgements and ridicules in the first 30 seconds of talking to a woman? You can't beat the system bro, you have to play alongside it ;).
"A man never "loses decent women" because he is "too forward." Women only lose interest in you because a) they're simply not attracted to you and/or b) they don't have the same desires, interests and intentions that you do."
I'm sorry but you're wrong here. I have had women TELL ME when i asked them why we never hooked up before and their replies were "i did really like you but you was too forward with sex etc". But maybe you're right and these women are crazy.
"Did you waste any time while you were Mode One? Did you waste any money? That is more important than analyzing how much pussy you got or didn't get."
lmao.
Did i waste money? You're right, i didn't. Thank you. But did i waste my time? YES. One year of it to be precise. Also, i would prefer to have a normal paid job and all the pussy in the world than be stinkingly rich and not have any women. MONEY means shit to me if i can get the women i want. Anylyzing how much pussy i got from Mode One is MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than how much money i lost.
"Getting laid is NOT the #1 objective for exhibiting Mode One Behavior"
I remember you saying that in the book. I should have stopped reading there because my main reason for having women in my life is to enjoy sex and have good times with them. So basically, Mode One's main goal is to eliminate the money grabbing, time wasting whores but NOT to get laid - If you do get laid it's a bonus... right?
Well that's where i went wrong. Sex was/is my main agenda (who wants female friends more than sex... really). So, are you saying i shouldn't have been Mode One to achieve this?
"You could just be a Mode One "hater" (i.e., harsh critic)"
lol everyone who objects Mode One is a hater. I get it.
The reason why i posted this here on your site is not to make fun or challenge you, Alan. I'm very sure there are members floating over these pages being Mode One but are stuck, confused and not getting what they want. I was one of them a few years back. Here i am offering an alternative which for me is much more successful and on paper it displays more success than Mode One does. THAT is why i have come here.
"You are wishy-washy. Your behavior is essentially Mode Two. That is what a Mode Two guy does ... he "blends" indirect behavior with certain instances of direct behavior. You are a classic Mode Two Pleasant Postponer."
From what i remember Mode Two was a pussy. He acted the way he did because he feared rejection. I try not to fear rejection. I do it more chilled and smooth because the women prefer it this way. Like i said before dude - WOMEN ARE THE ONES WHO CHOOSE WHETHER THE SEX IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
"I know more womanizers who I have met who were Mode One than those who were not. Just about all pimps and true players are Mode One. You will never catch a guy who is a true player or pimp lying to women or misleading them. Have you ever read the book about Iceberg Slim ... a famous pimp? He said in an interview, and I believe even in his book, that he would walk up to a woman and say, "Do you want to be one of my whores?" Now if that is not Mode One, I don't know what is."
Again, i don't care about labels like being a 'true player'. I just want some pussy, Alan. PUSSY. Not gratification from other men... Just pussy! Also, real life pimps deal with skanky hoes and prostitutes. If Mode One gets me desperate prostitutes then i'm glad i left it behind. I want quality women. Not hookers. So i do not take lessons from pimps.
The bit i've bolded - Do you REALLY think that would work in this day and age and with the high quality women out there?
For anyone reading this, please do not do the above. You will get slapped, have a drink thrown in your face or upset the woman. This is plain common sense we're talking about.
"But don't come on here trying to identify flaws and weaknesses with The Mode One Approach. I will break you down every time. Trust me on that...."
Ok. You got it, Alan. My mouth is now shut. But one last thing, as i said above, i've not come here to insult you - I'm just here to show an alternative. I will be making no money from this. I'm just helping a brother out.
Laters.
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Alan
See dude ... this is what you don't realize. That "hotel scenario" is simply a microcosm of real life in general.
You said, "The only other time that there would be a 'time limit' in real life is if i was on vacation." Here is what 90% of the guys out here don't realize: Until you meet the woman who will ultimately be your wife, there is always a "time limit." If a man is thirty years old, and there are potentially 3,500 - 10,000 women he could date, you better believe time is of the essence.
I'm not trying to waste time and/or money on any woman who I am not genuinely interested in having a long-term, monogamous relationship with.
I first exhibited Mode One Behavior in Bloomington, Indiana. Population: Approx. 75,000 people, with at least half of those being college students.
You know what's the irony of your comments? Guys like YOU were the ones who were mostly criticized ... not guys like me. Women used to tell me all of the time: "Alan ... I love and respect your approach. You immediately let women know what your intentions are (no-strings, no emotional attachment sex). Most of these other guys lie to you ... mislead you ... play games ... and I've told all of my girlfriends about them. My girlfriends won't be sleeping with these guys...."
And that is exactly what would happen. Once the "Mode Two" types reputation and way of doing things got around campus, their opportunities for getting pussy dried up quick.
I can very much argue with that, and I very much will argue with that assertion.
I cannot argue with your experiences ... but in my experiences, and many men who I interact with, "Woman #1" is not the most common woman most men come across.
Which type of women, out of the six described in the "hotel scenario," will men most frequently run into?
1) "Woman #5"
Comment: For most men in society, you will usually meet more women who are not interested in dating you or having casual sex with you than you will women who are.
2) "Woman #6"
Comment: Same sentiments as above; For every three women you meet in life who are genuinely interested in dating you or having casual sex with you, there are always going to be at least 3-5 women who have absolutely no interest in you, other than having you flatter them, entertain them, and spend money on them.
3) "Woman #2"
Comment: The vast majority of women who I have met who are interested in long-term, monogamous relationships have very little, if any desire, for any sort of non-monogamous relationship (i.e., casual sex); This is where guys like you come into play: You will only be able to have sex with a woman in this category if you lie to them, mislead them, and "trick" them into believing that you want something long-term and exclusive. A Mode One guy is not willing to do that.
4) "Woman #3"
Comment: Most women who are willing to indulge in casual sex, want to do so fairly quickly. This is why many women don't mind getting drunk and sleeping with a man (so the next day, they can just blame their night of promiscuity on alcohol). The only thing that really prevents most women from having one-night stands and weekend flings is the fear of being labeled a "ho," a "slut" or something similar.
5) "Woman #1"
Comment: As you can see, I disagree with your assessment. You said Woman #1 in the hotel scenario represents the highest percentage of women out in society ... and I say, it's almost just the opposite. Again, most women who are looking for a long-term, monogamous relationship don't really want to waste their time with a casual sex partner. There is a small percentage of women though that will flip flop between the two options.
6) "Woman #4"
Comment: You pretty much have to be Mode One to identify these types. If you are Mode Two and/or Mode Three, most of these women will not reveal their true kinky side.
Son ... you cannot believe how wrong you are in this assumption.
Here is the problem with the "indirect" / "Mode Two/Mode Three" behavior scenarios: When it comes down to the nitty gritty, this requires you to have to be "sneaky." I don't like being "sneaky" with women. You're arguing that most women want "security" and "monogamy," so they're not going to be enthusiastic about you freely interacting with other women.
If you meet Laura ... and you're giving her the impression that you are really into her ... then you can't go to a public place with Michelle or Tammy, because nine times out of ten, Laura is going to get jealous and confront you. If Laura is not the type to get jealous and confront you, then you might as well had been Mode One with her.
Well duh. A lot of my principles and philosophies are based on my own experiences and my own observations and assertions. The issue is not whether or not we are expressing opinions ... but whose opinions are the most logical, rational and valid.
Ah ha. You just contradicted yourself. You've been saying that you don't want women to perceive you as a "sex crazed maniac," but then here, you say you don't care about 'labels.' That is a blatant contradiction.
Now, you're defeating the purpose of even being Mode Two with women. If you're having sex with women ... and as you say, they know you're having sex with other women ... that contradicts your assertion that it is to a man's benefit to make a woman believe that he can provide "security" and "monogamy." Dude ... you are starting to contradict yourself big time.
The main reason why most guys are "indirect" (i.e., exhibit Mode Two and/or Mode Three Behavior) is so they can fuck multiple women while giving off the impression that they are only fucking one woman at a time. If you're saying that most of the women you're fucking know you're fucking other women ... what is the point?!?!? You might as well be Mode One. I don't even get the motivation behind your behavior now. It seems senseless to me.
You said, "The only other time that there would be a 'time limit' in real life is if i was on vacation." Here is what 90% of the guys out here don't realize: Until you meet the woman who will ultimately be your wife, there is always a "time limit." If a man is thirty years old, and there are potentially 3,500 - 10,000 women he could date, you better believe time is of the essence.
I'm not trying to waste time and/or money on any woman who I am not genuinely interested in having a long-term, monogamous relationship with.
I first exhibited Mode One Behavior in Bloomington, Indiana. Population: Approx. 75,000 people, with at least half of those being college students.
You know what's the irony of your comments? Guys like YOU were the ones who were mostly criticized ... not guys like me. Women used to tell me all of the time: "Alan ... I love and respect your approach. You immediately let women know what your intentions are (no-strings, no emotional attachment sex). Most of these other guys lie to you ... mislead you ... play games ... and I've told all of my girlfriends about them. My girlfriends won't be sleeping with these guys...."
And that is exactly what would happen. Once the "Mode Two" types reputation and way of doing things got around campus, their opportunities for getting pussy dried up quick.
I can very much argue with that, and I very much will argue with that assertion.
I cannot argue with your experiences ... but in my experiences, and many men who I interact with, "Woman #1" is not the most common woman most men come across.
Which type of women, out of the six described in the "hotel scenario," will men most frequently run into?
1) "Woman #5"
Comment: For most men in society, you will usually meet more women who are not interested in dating you or having casual sex with you than you will women who are.
2) "Woman #6"
Comment: Same sentiments as above; For every three women you meet in life who are genuinely interested in dating you or having casual sex with you, there are always going to be at least 3-5 women who have absolutely no interest in you, other than having you flatter them, entertain them, and spend money on them.
3) "Woman #2"
Comment: The vast majority of women who I have met who are interested in long-term, monogamous relationships have very little, if any desire, for any sort of non-monogamous relationship (i.e., casual sex); This is where guys like you come into play: You will only be able to have sex with a woman in this category if you lie to them, mislead them, and "trick" them into believing that you want something long-term and exclusive. A Mode One guy is not willing to do that.
4) "Woman #3"
Comment: Most women who are willing to indulge in casual sex, want to do so fairly quickly. This is why many women don't mind getting drunk and sleeping with a man (so the next day, they can just blame their night of promiscuity on alcohol). The only thing that really prevents most women from having one-night stands and weekend flings is the fear of being labeled a "ho," a "slut" or something similar.
5) "Woman #1"
Comment: As you can see, I disagree with your assessment. You said Woman #1 in the hotel scenario represents the highest percentage of women out in society ... and I say, it's almost just the opposite. Again, most women who are looking for a long-term, monogamous relationship don't really want to waste their time with a casual sex partner. There is a small percentage of women though that will flip flop between the two options.
6) "Woman #4"
Comment: You pretty much have to be Mode One to identify these types. If you are Mode Two and/or Mode Three, most of these women will not reveal their true kinky side.
Son ... you cannot believe how wrong you are in this assumption.
Here is the problem with the "indirect" / "Mode Two/Mode Three" behavior scenarios: When it comes down to the nitty gritty, this requires you to have to be "sneaky." I don't like being "sneaky" with women. You're arguing that most women want "security" and "monogamy," so they're not going to be enthusiastic about you freely interacting with other women.
If you meet Laura ... and you're giving her the impression that you are really into her ... then you can't go to a public place with Michelle or Tammy, because nine times out of ten, Laura is going to get jealous and confront you. If Laura is not the type to get jealous and confront you, then you might as well had been Mode One with her.
Well duh. A lot of my principles and philosophies are based on my own experiences and my own observations and assertions. The issue is not whether or not we are expressing opinions ... but whose opinions are the most logical, rational and valid.
Ah ha. You just contradicted yourself. You've been saying that you don't want women to perceive you as a "sex crazed maniac," but then here, you say you don't care about 'labels.' That is a blatant contradiction.
Now, you're defeating the purpose of even being Mode Two with women. If you're having sex with women ... and as you say, they know you're having sex with other women ... that contradicts your assertion that it is to a man's benefit to make a woman believe that he can provide "security" and "monogamy." Dude ... you are starting to contradict yourself big time.
The main reason why most guys are "indirect" (i.e., exhibit Mode Two and/or Mode Three Behavior) is so they can fuck multiple women while giving off the impression that they are only fucking one woman at a time. If you're saying that most of the women you're fucking know you're fucking other women ... what is the point?!?!? You might as well be Mode One. I don't even get the motivation behind your behavior now. It seems senseless to me.
What woman ... who is looking for "security" and "monogamy" .... would have sex with you when they know that there is a greater-than-fifty-percent chance that you're going to fuck other women? I've rarely, if ever met a woman like that. 99% of women who want monogamy want strict monogamy. That's why I said that the "Woman #1" in the hotel scenario is not the most common type of woman a man will meet.
You are starting to reveal a lot of flaws, inconsistencies and contradictions in the way you think my friend....
The only thing that makes a man "boyfriend" material is the fact that he presents himself as very monogamous-minded as opposed to having promiscuous tendencies. Once a woman who is looking for a long-term, monogamous relationship realizes that you really want to fuck multiple women, you're history.
Dude ... you have no conscious idea how flawed your assertions and way of thinking is. You really don't.
Your comments are now very, very funny to me. It's hard to take them serious any more.
Dude ... you are fantasizing. No woman who is looking for "security" and "monogamy" is going to let you off the hook like that. You're living in a dream world if you think she would. If you're being successful with women by giving them the impression that you are their "boyfriend" and monogamous sex partner, women are going to watch everything you do and ask you questions about every woman you interact with.
Women most definitely lead men on everyday. And I'm glad you said that. You will end up confirming why Mode One Behavior is so necessary and effective.
Let's return to the "hotel scenario."
If all men only were dealing with Woman #1 and Woman #2 in society ... then that is when it would really not be too detrimental for a man to consistently exhibit Mode Two Behavior with women.
Even if 99% of women had the desires and interests of Woman #1, Woman #2, Woman #3, and Woman #4, "indirect" behavior (i.e., Mode Two & Mode Three Behavior) could produce some desirable results.
The problem with your approach ... which is essentially a Mode Two approach ... is when you run into the "Woman #5" types and "Woman #6" types. You are going to get played. This is why at least half of my Mode One clients became frustrated with Mode Two Behavior and now love The Mode One Approach better.
I always say ... unless you're interacting with a woman who is very naive, and doesn't have much experience with men .... a woman is always going to win in a battle of "manipulative head games." Always. This is over half of what caused me to start exhibiting Mode One Behavior with women.
Have doubts?
Let's use your assertion:
You say you're most successful with women who really want "security" and long-term, monogamous sex ... but for the most part, would be willing to settle for a few weeks or a few months of casual sex.
Mode Two Approach: You spend time getting to know a woman, making her feel comfortable in your presence, and getting her to believe that you are a man that she can trust, confide in, and be dependable and loyal. Other than being very disingenuous, nothing really wrong there.
With a "Woman #1" type from the hotel scenario, there is a good chance you will probably get laid with this type of woman by being Mode Two if she is fairly naive and inexperienced with men.
With a "Woman #2" type from the hotel scenario, you might get the pussy ... but only after proving yourself over a period of months that you are truly monogamous-minded, and a man that she can trust.
With a "Woman #3" type, your behavior is going to come across as too basic and too conventional to really get this type of woman's pussy wet. More-than-likely, you're going to miss out on the opportunity to have sex with this type of woman. She will look at you more as "platonic friend" material.
With a "Woman #4" type, same as Woman #3. This woman will either look at you as 'boyfriend' material or platonic friend material, and she will act accordingly. Another missed opportunity for sex.
With a "Woman #5" type, you are the most in danger of getting played. Most Mode Two types end up wasting a lot of time with these types. Why? If you try to "rush" a Woman #5 type into having sex, she's going to look at you more as 'womanizer' type than a boyfriend type. So you can't be impatient. You have to spend hours, days, weeks and even months getting her to trust you.
But because this woman is not really interested in you to begin with, you end up spinning your wheels. You think you're earning brownie points, but really, this woman just wants a man to make her feel attractive, feel desired, and to flatter her and entertain her. She has no true interest in dating you or having casual sex with you. In the end, you end up getting mislead and wasting time.
With a "Woman #6" type, the same thing happens as with Woman #5, only you end up doing a lot of "wining & dining" than you would with Woman #5. In best case scenario ... you might fuck this woman a handful of times, but you will have invested a lot of time and/or money before doing it. In worst case scenario, you will have invested time and/or money, but failed to exchange orgasms even once.
The Mode One Approach works better in just about all of these scenarios.
This post of yours ... more than any other ... reveals the flaws and weaknesses in your way of thinking....
You are starting to reveal a lot of flaws, inconsistencies and contradictions in the way you think my friend....
The only thing that makes a man "boyfriend" material is the fact that he presents himself as very monogamous-minded as opposed to having promiscuous tendencies. Once a woman who is looking for a long-term, monogamous relationship realizes that you really want to fuck multiple women, you're history.
Dude ... you have no conscious idea how flawed your assertions and way of thinking is. You really don't.
Your comments are now very, very funny to me. It's hard to take them serious any more.
Dude ... you are fantasizing. No woman who is looking for "security" and "monogamy" is going to let you off the hook like that. You're living in a dream world if you think she would. If you're being successful with women by giving them the impression that you are their "boyfriend" and monogamous sex partner, women are going to watch everything you do and ask you questions about every woman you interact with.
Women most definitely lead men on everyday. And I'm glad you said that. You will end up confirming why Mode One Behavior is so necessary and effective.
Let's return to the "hotel scenario."
If all men only were dealing with Woman #1 and Woman #2 in society ... then that is when it would really not be too detrimental for a man to consistently exhibit Mode Two Behavior with women.
Even if 99% of women had the desires and interests of Woman #1, Woman #2, Woman #3, and Woman #4, "indirect" behavior (i.e., Mode Two & Mode Three Behavior) could produce some desirable results.
The problem with your approach ... which is essentially a Mode Two approach ... is when you run into the "Woman #5" types and "Woman #6" types. You are going to get played. This is why at least half of my Mode One clients became frustrated with Mode Two Behavior and now love The Mode One Approach better.
I always say ... unless you're interacting with a woman who is very naive, and doesn't have much experience with men .... a woman is always going to win in a battle of "manipulative head games." Always. This is over half of what caused me to start exhibiting Mode One Behavior with women.
Have doubts?
Let's use your assertion:
You say you're most successful with women who really want "security" and long-term, monogamous sex ... but for the most part, would be willing to settle for a few weeks or a few months of casual sex.
Mode Two Approach: You spend time getting to know a woman, making her feel comfortable in your presence, and getting her to believe that you are a man that she can trust, confide in, and be dependable and loyal. Other than being very disingenuous, nothing really wrong there.
With a "Woman #1" type from the hotel scenario, there is a good chance you will probably get laid with this type of woman by being Mode Two if she is fairly naive and inexperienced with men.
With a "Woman #2" type from the hotel scenario, you might get the pussy ... but only after proving yourself over a period of months that you are truly monogamous-minded, and a man that she can trust.
With a "Woman #3" type, your behavior is going to come across as too basic and too conventional to really get this type of woman's pussy wet. More-than-likely, you're going to miss out on the opportunity to have sex with this type of woman. She will look at you more as "platonic friend" material.
With a "Woman #4" type, same as Woman #3. This woman will either look at you as 'boyfriend' material or platonic friend material, and she will act accordingly. Another missed opportunity for sex.
With a "Woman #5" type, you are the most in danger of getting played. Most Mode Two types end up wasting a lot of time with these types. Why? If you try to "rush" a Woman #5 type into having sex, she's going to look at you more as 'womanizer' type than a boyfriend type. So you can't be impatient. You have to spend hours, days, weeks and even months getting her to trust you.
But because this woman is not really interested in you to begin with, you end up spinning your wheels. You think you're earning brownie points, but really, this woman just wants a man to make her feel attractive, feel desired, and to flatter her and entertain her. She has no true interest in dating you or having casual sex with you. In the end, you end up getting mislead and wasting time.
With a "Woman #6" type, the same thing happens as with Woman #5, only you end up doing a lot of "wining & dining" than you would with Woman #5. In best case scenario ... you might fuck this woman a handful of times, but you will have invested a lot of time and/or money before doing it. In worst case scenario, you will have invested time and/or money, but failed to exchange orgasms even once.
The Mode One Approach works better in just about all of these scenarios.
This post of yours ... more than any other ... reveals the flaws and weaknesses in your way of thinking....
You've just identified one of the main reasons why you would never be successful exhibiting Mode One Behavior in the long-run. You care too much about how you are perceived in the eyes of women. This is why most men who exhibit Mode Two Behavior and/or Mode Three Behavior do so. Matter of fact, this is why I used to be Mode Two. Because I cared too much what other people thought of me.
When I approach a woman ... I only care about two things: Is she interested in sharing my company, and is she interested in reciprocating my desires, interests and intentions. I don't care if she thinks I'm a "nice guy" versus an "asshole" or "jerk." I've had many women compliment me who I never ended up dating or having [casual] sex with. On the flip side, I've had women call me all sorts of names, criticize me and insult me ... but hours later, days later or weeks later ... those same women were sucking my dick or exchanging orgasms with me.
That's why I say in my book: Subjective criticisms are highly overrated. Compliments & Criticisms are just tools for manipulation.
You and I are actually on the same page here. I rarely ask women for their phone number. I usually give a woman my phone number and/or Email address. If they offer their phone number, I will take it ... but I rarely ask for it.
I don't know where these comments came from. How they're relevant to our conversation/discussion/debate. So I have no idea how to respond.
I believe I can ... plain and simply ... because I have done it. I know women ... many, matter of fact ... who flat out told me: "Alan ... if you would not have been as bold as you were with me ... as upfront as you were with me .... and as provocative and sexually straightforward with me as you were .... nine times out of ten, I would have never had sex with you. Or at minimum, I wouldn't have had sex with you as quickly as I did. The reason I had sex with you as quickly as I was because your approach was so confident and unconventional. It was unlike any other man who had ever approached me. And that is why it worked...."
When you are Mode Two and/or Mode Three ... you will have a decent degree of success with the "Woman #1" types from the hotel scenario, and even the "Woman #2" types. But again ... you will have your time (and/or money) wasted by the "Woman #5" types and "Woman #6" types.
You will typically lose out on the Woman #3 types and Woman #4 types. These are the main women who end up making comments like the one above. Women #3 types and Women #4 types rarely have sex with Mode Two guys or Mode Three guys. Rarely. Your behavior comes across as too basic and too conventional.
I would argue that I'm right ... and these women are not crazy, but lying. Trust me dude. I am in my 40s. I know women just about inside and out. Women don't "lose interest" in you because you're "too forward."
Here is why the vast majority of women don't like men who are upfront and straightforwardly honest with their sexual desires, interests and intentions: Simple answer ... because they want to manipulate you. This is just not my opinion .... women themselves have frequently admitted this to me.
Women love attention. Women love flattering attention and entertaining companionship in the same manner that most men love hand jobs and blowjobs. The reason why most women get agitated and frustrated when you express your desire for sex straightforwardly, is because they know you're not going to be willing to invest the amount of time they want you to flatter them and entertain them.
This is half of the reason why women love relationships. Women love conversation much more than the average man does. Most women who are looking for long-term relationships want you to talk to them, flatter them, entertain them and spoil them regularly. They don't want a guy who is just going to fuck them and then leave (their place) or kick them out (of your place).
When I'm Mode One with women, I'm essentially letting a woman know from the get-go: I'm not willing to play "head games" with you. I'm not willing to invest a whole lot of time and/or money pursuing your attention and/or companionship. Either you want to share my company sexually ... or you don't. End of story.
Well ... I feel different. I would rather get rejected after not spending any money than to invest time and money, and then later get rejected. And this is exactly what happens with Mode Two types and Mode Three types. If you invest time and money ... and then get laid ... then of course you're going to feel like your investment was worth it.
But when you're not Mode One ... you are inevitably going to interact with Woman #5 types and Woman #6 types (i.e., manipulative game players and time wasters). And those women are going to leave you feeling angry, frustrated and bitter.
If your sole & specific goal and objective is to get laid ... and you say money is not a big deal to you ... then why not just pay for the companionship of a hooker, prostitute, call girl or erotic escort??
This is what I ask all guys who say that "getting laid" is their #1 objective. Why not just pay a little cash, and be guaranteed to get laid??
I'm going to tell you why you're not currently fucking prostitutes, call girls and erotic escorts:
1) You DO care about money. Otherwise, it would not make any sense for you not to have sex with women who trade sexual companionship for financial favors.
2) You don't want to have casual sex with women who are totally willing to have casual sex. You want to have casual sex with women who rarely, if ever, indulge in casual sex. This is why you are in favor of "tricking" women and misleading them into having sex with you.
See my comments above. If sex is your #1 objective, I don't see why you just don't hook up with prostitutes and call girls. Or at least, the "neighborhood slut" or "easy lay" that will suck your dick or give you some pussy without you investing a lot of time and/or money.
Again ... your thing is, you want to have non-monogamous sex with women who are really looking for monogamous sex. That is why you're scared to be Mode One and why you feel it is ineffective. Do you think you are the first guy to present these sort of challenges to me?? C'mon son .... c'mon.
This is why a lot of men "play head games" with women. They want to have casual sex with women who rarely have casual sex. And this is why you have what I refer to as "Wholesome Pretenders."
A Wholesome Pretender would be woman, who deep-down, behind closed doors, is Woman #3 and/or Woman #4 from the hotel scenario ... but she knows how to be a believable actress, and effectively pretend as though she has the motivations of Woman #2, or at minimum, the motivations of Woman #1 from the hotel scenario.
Mode One Behavior is extremely effective at identifying Wholesome Pretender types. Mode Two and/or Mode Three Behavior are not.
When I approach a woman ... I only care about two things: Is she interested in sharing my company, and is she interested in reciprocating my desires, interests and intentions. I don't care if she thinks I'm a "nice guy" versus an "asshole" or "jerk." I've had many women compliment me who I never ended up dating or having [casual] sex with. On the flip side, I've had women call me all sorts of names, criticize me and insult me ... but hours later, days later or weeks later ... those same women were sucking my dick or exchanging orgasms with me.
That's why I say in my book: Subjective criticisms are highly overrated. Compliments & Criticisms are just tools for manipulation.
You and I are actually on the same page here. I rarely ask women for their phone number. I usually give a woman my phone number and/or Email address. If they offer their phone number, I will take it ... but I rarely ask for it.
I don't know where these comments came from. How they're relevant to our conversation/discussion/debate. So I have no idea how to respond.
I believe I can ... plain and simply ... because I have done it. I know women ... many, matter of fact ... who flat out told me: "Alan ... if you would not have been as bold as you were with me ... as upfront as you were with me .... and as provocative and sexually straightforward with me as you were .... nine times out of ten, I would have never had sex with you. Or at minimum, I wouldn't have had sex with you as quickly as I did. The reason I had sex with you as quickly as I was because your approach was so confident and unconventional. It was unlike any other man who had ever approached me. And that is why it worked...."
When you are Mode Two and/or Mode Three ... you will have a decent degree of success with the "Woman #1" types from the hotel scenario, and even the "Woman #2" types. But again ... you will have your time (and/or money) wasted by the "Woman #5" types and "Woman #6" types.
You will typically lose out on the Woman #3 types and Woman #4 types. These are the main women who end up making comments like the one above. Women #3 types and Women #4 types rarely have sex with Mode Two guys or Mode Three guys. Rarely. Your behavior comes across as too basic and too conventional.
I would argue that I'm right ... and these women are not crazy, but lying. Trust me dude. I am in my 40s. I know women just about inside and out. Women don't "lose interest" in you because you're "too forward."
Here is why the vast majority of women don't like men who are upfront and straightforwardly honest with their sexual desires, interests and intentions: Simple answer ... because they want to manipulate you. This is just not my opinion .... women themselves have frequently admitted this to me.
Women love attention. Women love flattering attention and entertaining companionship in the same manner that most men love hand jobs and blowjobs. The reason why most women get agitated and frustrated when you express your desire for sex straightforwardly, is because they know you're not going to be willing to invest the amount of time they want you to flatter them and entertain them.
This is half of the reason why women love relationships. Women love conversation much more than the average man does. Most women who are looking for long-term relationships want you to talk to them, flatter them, entertain them and spoil them regularly. They don't want a guy who is just going to fuck them and then leave (their place) or kick them out (of your place).
When I'm Mode One with women, I'm essentially letting a woman know from the get-go: I'm not willing to play "head games" with you. I'm not willing to invest a whole lot of time and/or money pursuing your attention and/or companionship. Either you want to share my company sexually ... or you don't. End of story.
Well ... I feel different. I would rather get rejected after not spending any money than to invest time and money, and then later get rejected. And this is exactly what happens with Mode Two types and Mode Three types. If you invest time and money ... and then get laid ... then of course you're going to feel like your investment was worth it.
But when you're not Mode One ... you are inevitably going to interact with Woman #5 types and Woman #6 types (i.e., manipulative game players and time wasters). And those women are going to leave you feeling angry, frustrated and bitter.
If your sole & specific goal and objective is to get laid ... and you say money is not a big deal to you ... then why not just pay for the companionship of a hooker, prostitute, call girl or erotic escort??
This is what I ask all guys who say that "getting laid" is their #1 objective. Why not just pay a little cash, and be guaranteed to get laid??
I'm going to tell you why you're not currently fucking prostitutes, call girls and erotic escorts:
1) You DO care about money. Otherwise, it would not make any sense for you not to have sex with women who trade sexual companionship for financial favors.
2) You don't want to have casual sex with women who are totally willing to have casual sex. You want to have casual sex with women who rarely, if ever, indulge in casual sex. This is why you are in favor of "tricking" women and misleading them into having sex with you.
See my comments above. If sex is your #1 objective, I don't see why you just don't hook up with prostitutes and call girls. Or at least, the "neighborhood slut" or "easy lay" that will suck your dick or give you some pussy without you investing a lot of time and/or money.
Again ... your thing is, you want to have non-monogamous sex with women who are really looking for monogamous sex. That is why you're scared to be Mode One and why you feel it is ineffective. Do you think you are the first guy to present these sort of challenges to me?? C'mon son .... c'mon.
This is why a lot of men "play head games" with women. They want to have casual sex with women who rarely have casual sex. And this is why you have what I refer to as "Wholesome Pretenders."
A Wholesome Pretender would be woman, who deep-down, behind closed doors, is Woman #3 and/or Woman #4 from the hotel scenario ... but she knows how to be a believable actress, and effectively pretend as though she has the motivations of Woman #2, or at minimum, the motivations of Woman #1 from the hotel scenario.
Mode One Behavior is extremely effective at identifying Wholesome Pretender types. Mode Two and/or Mode Three Behavior are not.
I don't mind people offering challenges to Mode One, if their arguments are halfway valid. But there are some who just love to 'hate on' The Mode One Approach.
You contradicted yourself. You did come here to try to challenge me. Otherwise, you would not have wasted this much time with all of these posts. You're trying to poke holes and identify flaws in The Mode One Approach, but so far, you have not been successful in doing so.
I agree with your last comment. Women ultimately choose whether or not they're going to have sex with you. And that's why I tell men: Never concern yourself with a woman's behavior. That is out of your control. Only concern yourself with how you want to behave towards women and how you're going to allow them to behave towards you.
I knew it. You just confirmed what I said above. Your problem is, you want to have one-night stands with women who are really not interested in one-night stands. You want to have weekend flings with women who are really not interested in having weekend flings. You want to have non-monogamous sex with women who either a) are strictly looking for monogamous sex, or at minimum, b) highly prefer monogamous sex, but would be willing to "occasionally" indulge in casual sex.
Women who are Wholesome Pretender types are going to have a field day with you. Women who are manipulative game players are going to have a field day with you.
Your problem? You think you are the "hunter" ... but in reality, you are the bait. If I were a manipulative woman, I would salivate at the chance to toy with a guy like you. Trust me ... manipulative women know your type very well. They actually laugh at guys like you behind your back. Because guys who use your mindset think they are getting over on women, but in reality, manipulative women are getting over on you.
How do you define "quality?" That term is extremely subjective. Some men consider beautiful women as "quality," but I know a lot of beautiful women who have one-night stands, weekend flings and group sex. Some men consider educated women as "quality," but I've had kinky, wild, promiscuous sex with many educated women. Some men think if a woman speaks well, doesn't use profanity, and goes to church on a regular basis that she is "innocent," "wholesome," and represents "quality." But I have had casual sex many times with women who are articulate, intelligent, very rarely use profanity and are religious and/or spiritual.
I would beg to differ. Now on one hand ... I never encourage men in my book to say things that are "X-rated" or "XXX-rated" to women right off the bat.
But ... that being said ... all of my close male and female friends know: I have said things to women that the average guy would be dreadfully afraid to way to women (for fear of being slapped, or having a drink thrown in their face). I can name times when I've approached women, and within 15-30 seconds, I said, "I can't wait to fuck you doggie style...."
For the record, I have never been slapped and I have never had a drink thrown in my face. The worst thing I have had was women curse me out or maybe a few abruptly end the conversation. But so what? I've had women curse me out one night ... and two nights later, I was fucking them.
I hope you don't think you're helping ME out. Please say that was a joke. You must be young.
Do you really think there is anything that you've told me about your beliefs, attitudes, and overall approach that I didn't already know??? C'mon son ... c'mon.
See ... you got it backwards. You tried out Mode One Behavior ... and now you're essentially transitioning to Mode Two Behavior.
For the vast majority of men in society, it's just the opposite. Most of the guys I consult with are guys who have used your very techniques .... but in the long-run, they ended up wasting a lot of time and/or money. Or ... they ended up getting played and left feeling angry, frustrated and bitter because they didn't realize the women they were dealing with were seasoned veterans of the "manipulative head games" scenario.
Everything you've described you've done with women and are doing with women ... I've already done. And I'm telling you ... and others ... in the long-run, your technique does not work. Matter of fact, in the long-run ... many women end up literally hating you.
You see, I don't mind having casual sex with women who really want to have casual sex. I'm not trying to 'trick' monogamous-minded women into having non-monogamous sex. That's not my M.O.
Thanks for the debate my friend .... it was entertaining.
You contradicted yourself. You did come here to try to challenge me. Otherwise, you would not have wasted this much time with all of these posts. You're trying to poke holes and identify flaws in The Mode One Approach, but so far, you have not been successful in doing so.
I agree with your last comment. Women ultimately choose whether or not they're going to have sex with you. And that's why I tell men: Never concern yourself with a woman's behavior. That is out of your control. Only concern yourself with how you want to behave towards women and how you're going to allow them to behave towards you.
I knew it. You just confirmed what I said above. Your problem is, you want to have one-night stands with women who are really not interested in one-night stands. You want to have weekend flings with women who are really not interested in having weekend flings. You want to have non-monogamous sex with women who either a) are strictly looking for monogamous sex, or at minimum, b) highly prefer monogamous sex, but would be willing to "occasionally" indulge in casual sex.
Women who are Wholesome Pretender types are going to have a field day with you. Women who are manipulative game players are going to have a field day with you.
Your problem? You think you are the "hunter" ... but in reality, you are the bait. If I were a manipulative woman, I would salivate at the chance to toy with a guy like you. Trust me ... manipulative women know your type very well. They actually laugh at guys like you behind your back. Because guys who use your mindset think they are getting over on women, but in reality, manipulative women are getting over on you.
How do you define "quality?" That term is extremely subjective. Some men consider beautiful women as "quality," but I know a lot of beautiful women who have one-night stands, weekend flings and group sex. Some men consider educated women as "quality," but I've had kinky, wild, promiscuous sex with many educated women. Some men think if a woman speaks well, doesn't use profanity, and goes to church on a regular basis that she is "innocent," "wholesome," and represents "quality." But I have had casual sex many times with women who are articulate, intelligent, very rarely use profanity and are religious and/or spiritual.
I would beg to differ. Now on one hand ... I never encourage men in my book to say things that are "X-rated" or "XXX-rated" to women right off the bat.
But ... that being said ... all of my close male and female friends know: I have said things to women that the average guy would be dreadfully afraid to way to women (for fear of being slapped, or having a drink thrown in their face). I can name times when I've approached women, and within 15-30 seconds, I said, "I can't wait to fuck you doggie style...."
For the record, I have never been slapped and I have never had a drink thrown in my face. The worst thing I have had was women curse me out or maybe a few abruptly end the conversation. But so what? I've had women curse me out one night ... and two nights later, I was fucking them.
I hope you don't think you're helping ME out. Please say that was a joke. You must be young.
Do you really think there is anything that you've told me about your beliefs, attitudes, and overall approach that I didn't already know??? C'mon son ... c'mon.
See ... you got it backwards. You tried out Mode One Behavior ... and now you're essentially transitioning to Mode Two Behavior.
For the vast majority of men in society, it's just the opposite. Most of the guys I consult with are guys who have used your very techniques .... but in the long-run, they ended up wasting a lot of time and/or money. Or ... they ended up getting played and left feeling angry, frustrated and bitter because they didn't realize the women they were dealing with were seasoned veterans of the "manipulative head games" scenario.
Everything you've described you've done with women and are doing with women ... I've already done. And I'm telling you ... and others ... in the long-run, your technique does not work. Matter of fact, in the long-run ... many women end up literally hating you.
You see, I don't mind having casual sex with women who really want to have casual sex. I'm not trying to 'trick' monogamous-minded women into having non-monogamous sex. That's not my M.O.
Thanks for the debate my friend .... it was entertaining.
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Ghosty
I never want to get married. You can have everything you'd ever want, love, sex, happiness, someone to care for WITHOUT bringing in 'legalities'.
Dude, 60 minutes in a hotel room is a tad bit shorter than 20 years of your life. AND, you mention that a 30 year old guy would be worried of finding the 'one'. I know a few 30 year olds who do not wish to have relationships. Also, the way i am explaining is more successful than Mode One. A 30 year old man seeking a serious partner would have a good chance of finding the 'one' with the way i do it.
Haha they came to you because they were upset about fucking guys who act like the way i'm trying to get across. Whilst you're their shoulder to cry on, i'm down the STD clinic checking if i caught anything from them. What a woman says means absolute shit. It's what they react to that matters.
You're digging yourself a deep hole now, Alan. These are the vast amjority of women and you are niave to believe otherwise. You explain how a guy would be successful with these women... And it's the exact same way i am explaining in my original post. Thanks for the agreement.
I agree. That's why going up to women and saying (i quote you, Alan) "I can't wait to see my cock in your mouth" after 30 seconds of meeting her IS not the best way of sleeping with women. Yet you have advocated this type of behaviour in the past?...
So what are the most common types of women? trust me, i'm right. Indeed there are women who like to fuck strangers, prostitues, pornstars... but these are NOT the vast majority. Look around you, women aren't out looking for a random dick. Deep inside they're looking for security and monogamy. It's in their biology for christ's sake!!
Firstly, i am NOT indirect. I have mentioned this previously on more than one occasion now.
So, I'm seeing a girl called Laura... Why can't i go to a public place with another girl? I've never told Laura i was in a relationship with her. Would she be pissed off if she saw me with another girl? Of course. But even if she KNEW i was seeing other women from the get go do you really believe she'll be all shit's and giggles seeing me with others? I try not to lie as much as possible. I would never outright say "YES, me and you are together monogamously"... I mentioned that in the OP. I simply DO NOT STOP HER FROM STARTING TO THINK THAT WE COULD BE TOGETHER IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
That is what i'm trying to explain here.
hahahaha you guys, men, thinking of me as not being a 'true player' or a 'real pimp' is NOT going to affect my sucess with women since i am not fucking you. A woman thinking i'm a sex crazed sociopath WILL affect my success in bedding her.
LOL read my OP again! I never actually SAY that i will commit to something serious with her. There will be a point when i will have to say 'i do not wish to be monogamous yet' because you cannot hide the answer forever. But by that time, usually, i would have already slept with her AND she has spent enough time with me to MISS me if she was to walk away. Being so upfront originally can often eliminate a woman getting close to you in the first place if i'm upfront about NOT wanting monogamy.
lol once a woman is close to you and she has already given you her prized possession (Her pussy. And women know how important it is, they use it to get a lot in life) then i can be a bit more honest. Sex with women creates a very powerful bond to you. This arguement is about getting those women in your life IN THE FIRST PLACE. The way i explain is a lot more successful for doing that. After all, you can't do shit when they're not in your life in the first place.
Dude, 60 minutes in a hotel room is a tad bit shorter than 20 years of your life. AND, you mention that a 30 year old guy would be worried of finding the 'one'. I know a few 30 year olds who do not wish to have relationships. Also, the way i am explaining is more successful than Mode One. A 30 year old man seeking a serious partner would have a good chance of finding the 'one' with the way i do it.
"Women used to tell me all of the time: "Alan ... I love and respect your approach. You immediately let women know what your intentions are (no-strings, no emotional attachment sex). Most of these other guys lie to you ... mislead you ... play games ... and I've told all of my girlfriends about them. My girlfriends won't be sleeping with these guys...."
"3) "Woman #2"
Comment: The vast majority of women who I have met who are interested in long-term, monogamous relationships have very little, if any desire, for any sort of non-monogamous relationship (i.e., casual sex); This is where guys like you come into play: You will only be able to have sex with a woman in this category if you lie to them, mislead them, and "trick" them into believing that you want something long-term and exclusive. A Mode One guy is not willing to do that."
Comment: The vast majority of women who I have met who are interested in long-term, monogamous relationships have very little, if any desire, for any sort of non-monogamous relationship (i.e., casual sex); This is where guys like you come into play: You will only be able to have sex with a woman in this category if you lie to them, mislead them, and "trick" them into believing that you want something long-term and exclusive. A Mode One guy is not willing to do that."
"4) "Woman #3"
Comment: Most women who are willing to indulge in casual sex, want to do so fairly quickly. This is why many women don't mind getting drunk and sleeping with a man (so the next day, they can just blame their night of promiscuity on alcohol). The only thing that really prevents most women from having one-night stands and weekend flings is the fear of being labeled a "ho," a "slut" or something similar."
Comment: Most women who are willing to indulge in casual sex, want to do so fairly quickly. This is why many women don't mind getting drunk and sleeping with a man (so the next day, they can just blame their night of promiscuity on alcohol). The only thing that really prevents most women from having one-night stands and weekend flings is the fear of being labeled a "ho," a "slut" or something similar."
"5) "Woman #1"
Comment: As you can see, I disagree with your assessment. You said Woman #1 in the hotel scenario represents the highest percentage of women out in society ... and I say, it's almost just the opposite. Again, most women who are looking for a long-term, monogamous relationship don't really want to waste their time with a casual sex partner. There is a small percentage of women though that will flip flop between the two options."
Comment: As you can see, I disagree with your assessment. You said Woman #1 in the hotel scenario represents the highest percentage of women out in society ... and I say, it's almost just the opposite. Again, most women who are looking for a long-term, monogamous relationship don't really want to waste their time with a casual sex partner. There is a small percentage of women though that will flip flop between the two options."
"Son ... you cannot believe how wrong you are in this assumption.
Here is the problem with the "indirect" / "Mode Two/Mode Three" behavior scenarios: When it comes down to the nitty gritty, this requires you to have to be "sneaky." I don't like being "sneaky" with women. You're arguing that most women want "security" and "monogamy," so they're not going to be enthusiastic about you freely interacting with other women.
If you meet Laura ... and you're giving her the impression that you are really into her ... then you can't go to a public place with Michelle or Tammy, because nine times out of ten, Laura is going to get jealous and confront you. If Laura is not the type to get jealous and confront you, then you might as well had been Mode One with her."
Here is the problem with the "indirect" / "Mode Two/Mode Three" behavior scenarios: When it comes down to the nitty gritty, this requires you to have to be "sneaky." I don't like being "sneaky" with women. You're arguing that most women want "security" and "monogamy," so they're not going to be enthusiastic about you freely interacting with other women.
If you meet Laura ... and you're giving her the impression that you are really into her ... then you can't go to a public place with Michelle or Tammy, because nine times out of ten, Laura is going to get jealous and confront you. If Laura is not the type to get jealous and confront you, then you might as well had been Mode One with her."
So, I'm seeing a girl called Laura... Why can't i go to a public place with another girl? I've never told Laura i was in a relationship with her. Would she be pissed off if she saw me with another girl? Of course. But even if she KNEW i was seeing other women from the get go do you really believe she'll be all shit's and giggles seeing me with others? I try not to lie as much as possible. I would never outright say "YES, me and you are together monogamously"... I mentioned that in the OP. I simply DO NOT STOP HER FROM STARTING TO THINK THAT WE COULD BE TOGETHER IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
That is what i'm trying to explain here.
"Ah ha. You just contradicted yourself. You've been saying that you don't want women to perceive you as a "sex crazed maniac," but then here, you say you don't care about 'labels.' That is a blatant contradiction."
"Now, you're defeating the purpose of even being Mode Two with women. If you're having sex with women ... and as you say, they know you're having sex with other women ... that contradicts your assertion that it is to a man's benefit to make a woman believe that he can provide "security" and "monogamy." Dude ... you are starting to contradict yourself big time."
"The main reason why most guys are "indirect" (i.e., exhibit Mode Two and/or Mode Three Behavior) is so they can fuck multiple women while giving off the impression that they are only fucking one woman at a time. If you're saying that most of the women you're fucking know you're fucking other women ... what is the point?!?!? You might as well be Mode One. I don't even get the motivation behind your behavior now. It seems senseless to me."
EXACTLY. That's my point. You simply do not say to them - "I only want sex".
They all want strict monogamy. I thought monogamy was strict anyways, or is there some sort of part-time monogamy where every friday night you can fuck whoever? lol.
Every woman says she will make a guy wait if she really likes him. But they NEVER do! If they do, sorry kid but she doesn't like you that much. They all say to the public that they would not have sex with a stranger. Here's a tip: If a woman is moving her mouth = take it with a pinch of salt. Every woman wants some sort of monogamy, even every guy does too. I would LOVE to fuck whoever i please and the women i fuck can only fuck me. That would be perfect, but then again only monogamous on the women's part.
Woman #1 is indeed the most common. If you think it isn't then i need to move to your city and hang out with your openly-promiscuous women. Because from the vast mjority of women i've met, they would prefer a relationship over random sex.
But by that time... I've gotten what i wanted.
And tell that to the girl upstairs in my bed, 2 and a half years after we first had sex... What you say does hold some truth. She has left for other men because they can offer her the one thing i can't, you guessed it... Monogamy. So far she has always came back. I don't mind. My door is always open.
Mode One is all good on paper, Alan. It really is... But actions often speak louder. You're a PUA Guru, right? where's your infield shit? In fact, it's easy to fake and easy to keep the good reactions and lose the many bad ones you'll have from Mode One. So forget i asked about any infield videos.
For christ sakes!!!! I wouldn't run around everyday hiding shit from every girl for the next 10 years. I simply give myself the best chance to set up a sexual relationship with a girl. By allowing her to think we COULD be monogamous AT FIRST. Then when the penny drops... she's more than likely hooked on the sex i give her and my company. That is it in a nutshell.
And experience will teach any guy, regardless of his 'method' or approach, when a girl is taking the piss.
Again, i am usually direct. It wouldn't be hard to realise that woman #5 isn't interested. I give her my number... she calls... it's on... she doesn't... well, i'd have already moved onto the next one. And come on, most women if not intterested with a male would NOT stand and chat with him for hours.
Women #6 - well, straight away i don't wine and dine so she's fucked right there and then. Also, i do happen to escalate dude. I do try to up the vibe every now and then. If i see it not working out or her being a tough cookie then i'll decide if i think her ass is worth the effort. After i feel we're both comfortable with each other i'd say something about her that i find sexy. If she responds like a wet fish - SEE YA! If she's smiling and laughing... i'm warming that bish up!!!
Mode Two is a pussy, from what i gathered in your book. I am not Mode Two. I am simply playing alongside societal 'rules'.
And we will NEVER come to an agreement on which woman is more common. From my experience, my friends, dating sites i have seen, the girls i have dated, mates Gf's, Ex gf's, relatives - Woman #1 is the most common type of woman. And by you saying i would have more chance in bedding this type of women, you are right. Because i am more successful... which is what i've been saying.
If she's hot i might not mind waiting, but women in this day and age women would not make you wait that long. If she seriously did make me wait one month then i'm not interested. I would have more than likely been getting sex elsewhere anyways.
If she wanted to sleep with me at the drop of a dime i'm sure she's smart enough to give me a hint.
What? If she was interested in a threesome i'm sure she would too give me a hint. I don't know if you realise this dude but women do know how to escalate or at least give fucking signs lol. What would you say "Hi, i'm Alan. Nice to meet you. So are we having a threesome here then?"... lol. I wold probably say that but with a jokey tone.
And why are you talking about 'missing sex opportunities' anyways, that's not the main objective with Mode One, right?
you said earlier that: Well, then.. i like to think i'm smart enough to get the hint that this isn't going anywhere.
They all want strict monogamy. I thought monogamy was strict anyways, or is there some sort of part-time monogamy where every friday night you can fuck whoever? lol.
Every woman says she will make a guy wait if she really likes him. But they NEVER do! If they do, sorry kid but she doesn't like you that much. They all say to the public that they would not have sex with a stranger. Here's a tip: If a woman is moving her mouth = take it with a pinch of salt. Every woman wants some sort of monogamy, even every guy does too. I would LOVE to fuck whoever i please and the women i fuck can only fuck me. That would be perfect, but then again only monogamous on the women's part.
Woman #1 is indeed the most common. If you think it isn't then i need to move to your city and hang out with your openly-promiscuous women. Because from the vast mjority of women i've met, they would prefer a relationship over random sex.
"The only thing that makes a man "boyfriend" material is the fact that he presents himself as very monogamous-minded as opposed to having promiscuous tendencies. Once a woman who is looking for a long-term, monogamous relationship realizes that you really want to fuck multiple women, you're history."
And tell that to the girl upstairs in my bed, 2 and a half years after we first had sex... What you say does hold some truth. She has left for other men because they can offer her the one thing i can't, you guessed it... Monogamy. So far she has always came back. I don't mind. My door is always open.
Mode One is all good on paper, Alan. It really is... But actions often speak louder. You're a PUA Guru, right? where's your infield shit? In fact, it's easy to fake and easy to keep the good reactions and lose the many bad ones you'll have from Mode One. So forget i asked about any infield videos.
"Dude ... you are fantasizing. No woman who is looking for "security" and "monogamy" is going to let you off the hook like that. You're living in a dream world if you think she would. If you're being successful with women by giving them the impression that you are their "boyfriend" and monogamous sex partner, women are going to watch everything you do and ask you questions about every woman you interact with."
"Women most definitely lead men on everyday. And I'm glad you said that. You will end up confirming why Mode One Behavior is so necessary and effective."
"The problem with your approach ... which is essentially a Mode Two approach ... is when you run into the "Woman #5" types and "Woman #6" types. You are going to get played. This is why at least half of my Mode One clients became frustrated with Mode Two Behavior and now love The Mode One Approach better."
Women #6 - well, straight away i don't wine and dine so she's fucked right there and then. Also, i do happen to escalate dude. I do try to up the vibe every now and then. If i see it not working out or her being a tough cookie then i'll decide if i think her ass is worth the effort. After i feel we're both comfortable with each other i'd say something about her that i find sexy. If she responds like a wet fish - SEE YA! If she's smiling and laughing... i'm warming that bish up!!!
"With a "Woman #1" type from the hotel scenario, there is a good chance you will probably get laid with this type of woman by being Mode Two if she is fairly naive and inexperienced with men."
And we will NEVER come to an agreement on which woman is more common. From my experience, my friends, dating sites i have seen, the girls i have dated, mates Gf's, Ex gf's, relatives - Woman #1 is the most common type of woman. And by you saying i would have more chance in bedding this type of women, you are right. Because i am more successful... which is what i've been saying.
"With a "Woman #2" type from the hotel scenario, you might get the pussy ... but only after proving yourself over a period of months that you are truly monogamous-minded, and a man that she can trust."
"With a "Woman #3" type, your behavior is going to come across as too basic and too conventional to really get this type of woman's pussy wet. More-than-likely, you're going to miss out on the opportunity to have sex with this type of woman. She will look at you more as "platonic friend" material."
"With a "Woman #4" type, same as Woman #3. This woman will either look at you as 'boyfriend' material or platonic friend material, and she will act accordingly. Another missed opportunity for sex."
And why are you talking about 'missing sex opportunities' anyways, that's not the main objective with Mode One, right?
"With a "Woman #5" type, you are the most in danger of getting played. Most Mode Two types end up wasting a lot of time with these types. Why? If you try to "rush" a Woman #5 type into having sex, she's going to look at you more as 'womanizer' type than a boyfriend type. So you can't be impatient. You have to spend hours, days, weeks and even months getting her to trust you.
Woman #5: This attractive woman wants to have an enjoyable, lengthy, entertaining conversation with you .... but she has no desire to date you and/or have sex with you; She's just bored and has some time to kill."
There's being aware and there's being a pussy. In the words of your friend David X "If you call me a cunt... i'd tell you to fuck off. If he calls me a cunt... i'd tell him to fuck off. If that guy calls me a cunt... i'd tell him to fuck off. If the other guy calls me a cunt... I'd start to look in the mirror". Very true.
Not caring what people think isn't something that generally gets you laid.
This what that girl at the grocery store told you, bro? lol Seriously, you should write adult flicks. You've been watching 'talk dirty to me' too much now lol. I love it how she said it exactly how you would have said it.
Not if you're smart about it.
I take everything out of a woman's mouth with a pinch of salt so maybe they were in fact, lying. On the off chance, you could be right. But the women that have said this to me were interested in me enough to initiate contact and i have a good idea on when a woman is interested in me. Alan, how about going upto a religious girl and telling her you want to fuck her pussy with a cross? Don't be shy now.
Which to me, is the vast majority of women. That's why being so upfront about your 'sex only' intentions isn't a wise move.
No, i'm going to be interacting with women #1 types as i believe these are the most common types of women (again, here's where we always differ in opinon).
Because i value my own penis. Every man should believe a girl is lucky to have his cock in her. When he cum's he is entially giving her the key to his own fucking DNA. That's a big thing. Yet here you say i should be the one paying for something in which her and i will enjoy. No chance, she can pay her own half hahaha. I have never used a hooker and i never will.
Actually, i'd prefer if it every woman walked around wanting sex as openly as us. I love sluts. I would much rather fuck a kinky slut than a homely, sensible girl. Again, your assumption is wrong i'm afraid.
Why don't i? Because they're fucking ugly, or else i would.
hahaha i'm not scared of being Mode One. I did it for a year, remember. And no i'm not surprised about not being the only one to 'challenge' you. Other people, like me, realise there are more successful ways of getting some decent ass.
Not caring what people think isn't something that generally gets you laid.
"I believe I can ... plain and simply ... because I have done it. I know women ... many, matter of fact ... who flat out told me: "Alan ... if you would not have been as bold as you were with me ... as upfront as you were with me .... and as provocative and sexually straightforward with me as you were .... nine times out of ten, I would have never had sex with you. Or at minimum, I wouldn't have had sex with you as quickly as I did. The reason I had sex with you as quickly as I was because your approach was so confident and unconventional. It was unlike any other man who had ever approached me. And that is why it worked...."
"When you are Mode Two and/or Mode Three ... you will have a decent degree of success with the "Woman #1" types from the hotel scenario, and even the "Woman #2" types. But again ... you will have your time (and/or money) wasted by the "Woman #5" types and "Woman #6" types"
"I would argue that I'm right ... and these women are not crazy, but lying. Trust me dude. I am in my 40s. I know women just about inside and out. Women don't "lose interest" in you because you're "too forward."
"Most women who are looking for long-term relationships want you to talk to them, flatter them, entertain them and spoil them regularly. They don't want a guy who is just going to fuck them and then leave (their place) or kick them out (of your place)."
"But when you're not Mode One ... you are inevitably going to interact with Woman #5 types and Woman #6 types (i.e., manipulative game players and time wasters). And those women are going to leave you feeling angry, frustrated and bitter."
"If your sole & specific goal and objective is to get laid ... and you say money is not a big deal to you ... then why not just pay for the companionship of a hooker, prostitute, call girl or erotic escort??"
"2) You don't want to have casual sex with women who are totally willing to have casual sex. You want to have casual sex with women who rarely, if ever, indulge in casual sex. This is why you are in favor of "tricking" women and misleading them into having sex with you."
"See my comments above. If sex is your #1 objective, I don't see why you just don't hook up with prostitutes and call girls. Or at least, the "neighborhood slut" or "easy lay" that will suck your dick or give you some pussy without you investing a lot of time and/or money."
"Again ... your thing is, you want to have non-monogamous sex with women who are really looking for monogamous sex. That is why you're scared to be Mode One and why you feel it is ineffective. Do you think you are the first guy to present these sort of challenges to me?? C'mon son .... c'mon."
What i want is pussy. End of. I don't really care what she wants. Does it really matter that much what she wants. We are a selfish species. I don't remember women saying to men "tell you what i'm gonna fuck you tonight and not make you wait a month". By making men wait... Could that be deemed as selfish on their parts?
LOL ok, Alan.
Only time will tell. I'll check back in about a year and update you lol.
What i do know, for myself, is that i am more successful with women now than i was when i was Mode One. I really am. I have more women in my life and a 'nice guy' rep building again. Nice guys only finish last when they think with their pussies and not with their cocks. But you've gotta be smart about it
It has been entertaining and a pleasure. Till next time...
"Your problem? You think you are the "hunter" ... but in reality, you are the bait. If I were a manipulative woman, I would salivate at the chance to toy with a guy like you. Trust me ... manipulative women know your type very well. They actually laugh at guys like you behind your back. Because guys who use your mindset think they are getting over on women, but in reality, manipulative women are getting over on you."
"Everything you've described you've done with women and are doing with women ... I've already done. And I'm telling you ... and others ... in the long-run, your technique does not work. Matter of fact, in the long-run ... many women end up literally hating you."
What i do know, for myself, is that i am more successful with women now than i was when i was Mode One. I really am. I have more women in my life and a 'nice guy' rep building again. Nice guys only finish last when they think with their pussies and not with their cocks. But you've gotta be smart about it
It has been entertaining and a pleasure. Till next time...
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Alan
None of your responses invalidated anything I said.
You just repeated a bunch of random, invalid, unsubstantiated opinions.
You're not even sure WHO YOU ARE or WHAT YOU'RE DOING. One minute you're suggesting you're not being direct ... then the next moment, you're saying you're being direct.
How can you explain what you're doing if you don't know what the fuck you're doing.
Go to sleep dude and just let this debate go. You're going to make more guys buy my book than you will avoid buying it.
Again ... I know literally hundreds, if not thousands of guys who exhibited the exact same behavior that you say you are. Most of them experienced success in the short-run ... but in the long-run? Just about all of them ended up angry, frustrated and bitter once they started interacting with the more manipulative type women.
Yes ... check back with me in a year. You'll be back on the Mode One bandwagon for sure.....
You just repeated a bunch of random, invalid, unsubstantiated opinions.
You're not even sure WHO YOU ARE or WHAT YOU'RE DOING. One minute you're suggesting you're not being direct ... then the next moment, you're saying you're being direct.
How can you explain what you're doing if you don't know what the fuck you're doing.
Go to sleep dude and just let this debate go. You're going to make more guys buy my book than you will avoid buying it.
Again ... I know literally hundreds, if not thousands of guys who exhibited the exact same behavior that you say you are. Most of them experienced success in the short-run ... but in the long-run? Just about all of them ended up angry, frustrated and bitter once they started interacting with the more manipulative type women.
Yes ... check back with me in a year. You'll be back on the Mode One bandwagon for sure.....
You must not know the difference between being direct ... and being indirect.
You are very much indirect. You are Mode Two with touches of Mode Three.
If you were direct ... and you say you want pussy ... then you would let a woman know that within the first five minutes of your first conversation with them. That is being direct.
If I meet a woman ... and I want to fuck that woman ... and I let her know that within the first five minutes, ten minutes or fifteen minutes ... that is being direct.
If I meet a woman ... and I want to fuck that woman ... but I first spend time flattering her ... engaging her in entertaining "small talk" ... and talking about shit that has nothing to do with me fucking her ... that is being INDIRECT.
You are very much "indirect" dude. Please quit denying this.
You may not blatantly lie ... but you're being 'vague' and 'ambiguous' about your desires, interests and intentions. That is still Mode Two Behavior. You're still being "indirect."
Direct would be if you either said "I want to fuck you" or "I don't want to fuck you." "I want to have casual sex with you" or "I don't want to have casual sex with you." "I want to be in a long-term relationship with you" or "I don't want to be in a long-term relationship with you." All of these would be examples of being direct.
Indirect is when you say things like, "I'm not sure what I want right now ... let's just play it by ear and see what happens...." "I don't know if I'm ready for a really 'serious' relationship right now, but I do know that I care about you deeply...." "I have no desire to hurt you .... all I know is that I want to spend a lot of quality time with you in the near future...." All of these are examples of vague, ambiguous bullshit. In other words, INDIRECT behavior.
Here is what you just don't seem to understand: Anytime you're in a position to lie to women .... you're in a position for them to lie to you. Anytime you're in a position to mislead women .... you're in a position for them to mislead you. Anytime you're in a position to play 'head games' with women and manipulate them ... you put yourself in a position for them to do the exact same thing. This is what you're unwilling to acknowledge. I say clearly in my "Mode One" Book: MANIPULATION IS ALWAYS A TWO-WAY STREET. ALWAYS. NO EXCEPTIONS.
I have no idea what you just said. I can't even comprehend that because it was so full of inconsistent, contradictory bullshit.
You are a piece of work. I'll give you that. You try, and you try HARD ...
You are very much indirect. You are Mode Two with touches of Mode Three.
If you were direct ... and you say you want pussy ... then you would let a woman know that within the first five minutes of your first conversation with them. That is being direct.
If I meet a woman ... and I want to fuck that woman ... and I let her know that within the first five minutes, ten minutes or fifteen minutes ... that is being direct.
If I meet a woman ... and I want to fuck that woman ... but I first spend time flattering her ... engaging her in entertaining "small talk" ... and talking about shit that has nothing to do with me fucking her ... that is being INDIRECT.
You are very much "indirect" dude. Please quit denying this.
You may not blatantly lie ... but you're being 'vague' and 'ambiguous' about your desires, interests and intentions. That is still Mode Two Behavior. You're still being "indirect."
Direct would be if you either said "I want to fuck you" or "I don't want to fuck you." "I want to have casual sex with you" or "I don't want to have casual sex with you." "I want to be in a long-term relationship with you" or "I don't want to be in a long-term relationship with you." All of these would be examples of being direct.
Indirect is when you say things like, "I'm not sure what I want right now ... let's just play it by ear and see what happens...." "I don't know if I'm ready for a really 'serious' relationship right now, but I do know that I care about you deeply...." "I have no desire to hurt you .... all I know is that I want to spend a lot of quality time with you in the near future...." All of these are examples of vague, ambiguous bullshit. In other words, INDIRECT behavior.
Here is what you just don't seem to understand: Anytime you're in a position to lie to women .... you're in a position for them to lie to you. Anytime you're in a position to mislead women .... you're in a position for them to mislead you. Anytime you're in a position to play 'head games' with women and manipulate them ... you put yourself in a position for them to do the exact same thing. This is what you're unwilling to acknowledge. I say clearly in my "Mode One" Book: MANIPULATION IS ALWAYS A TWO-WAY STREET. ALWAYS. NO EXCEPTIONS.
I have no idea what you just said. I can't even comprehend that because it was so full of inconsistent, contradictory bullshit.
You are a piece of work. I'll give you that. You try, and you try HARD ...
Most in-field videos are fake. I doubt if you would ever catch me making an in-field video. And I've never considered myself a "pickup artist" (PUA). OTHER PEOPLE refer to me as a "seduction guru" and "pickup artist" guru, but I don't. I refer to myself as a book author and interpersonal communication consultant.
You must be very naive and inexperienced with men. Seriously. Manipulative women will invest hours, days, weeks and months in men who they really have no interest in. Are you kidding me?? That's the beauty of their manipulation. They know how to make you THINK that they're interested in you ... but in reality, they're not.
You said this ... I didn't. You are very much Mode Two. And ... even though I didn't say in my book that Mode Two guys were pussies, I guess you can say they are. You said yourself you're afraid to just walk up to a woman, and let her know that all you want is the pussy. If that's true, you are a pussy. I get laid because women know I have big ass balls. I'm not scared to say shit to a woman. I will say anything I feel like saying, and not give a fuck. That is what being Mode One is all about. You're scared of being rejected and criticized by women, which in essence, makes you a pussy.
There are five types of guys I describe in my book....
Mode One Straightshooter: This is a guy that lets women know his true desires, interests and intentions within the first few minutes of his first conversation with them.
Mode Two Pleasant Postponer: This is a guy who first takes the time to make women feel "comfortable" in his presence, and takes time to flatter women and engage in entertaining "small talk" with them prior to letting his desires and interests be known to them (this is you)
Mode Three Timid: This is a guy who rarely, if ever, even approaches women. He just stands on the sidelines admiring their beauty and sex appeal
Mode Three Target: This is a guy who makes women think he's not really interested in sex, when in actuality, that's all he's interested in; His conversation usually centers on trying to "impress" women with his academic achievements, his career success, his wealth, or his material possessions
Mode Four Misogynist: This is a guy who started out being Mode Two with women and/or Mode Three with women, but he ended up getting disrespected and/or manipulated so frequently that now he is just bitter and resentful toward all women. He thinks all women are bitches, hos and golddiggers.
You must be very naive and inexperienced with men. Seriously. Manipulative women will invest hours, days, weeks and months in men who they really have no interest in. Are you kidding me?? That's the beauty of their manipulation. They know how to make you THINK that they're interested in you ... but in reality, they're not.
You said this ... I didn't. You are very much Mode Two. And ... even though I didn't say in my book that Mode Two guys were pussies, I guess you can say they are. You said yourself you're afraid to just walk up to a woman, and let her know that all you want is the pussy. If that's true, you are a pussy. I get laid because women know I have big ass balls. I'm not scared to say shit to a woman. I will say anything I feel like saying, and not give a fuck. That is what being Mode One is all about. You're scared of being rejected and criticized by women, which in essence, makes you a pussy.
There are five types of guys I describe in my book....
Mode One Straightshooter: This is a guy that lets women know his true desires, interests and intentions within the first few minutes of his first conversation with them.
Mode Two Pleasant Postponer: This is a guy who first takes the time to make women feel "comfortable" in his presence, and takes time to flatter women and engage in entertaining "small talk" with them prior to letting his desires and interests be known to them (this is you)
Mode Three Timid: This is a guy who rarely, if ever, even approaches women. He just stands on the sidelines admiring their beauty and sex appeal
Mode Three Target: This is a guy who makes women think he's not really interested in sex, when in actuality, that's all he's interested in; His conversation usually centers on trying to "impress" women with his academic achievements, his career success, his wealth, or his material possessions
Mode Four Misogynist: This is a guy who started out being Mode Two with women and/or Mode Three with women, but he ended up getting disrespected and/or manipulated so frequently that now he is just bitter and resentful toward all women. He thinks all women are bitches, hos and golddiggers.
I have 20+ years of experience being Mode One that says otherwise. I would venture to say, that is one of the primary factors that gets men laid. That's why most women love "bad boy" types. Because "bad boy" types don't care what women think about them. They don't care about women's criticisms and insults. They only care about what they want.
You're contradicting yourself son. First you said you didn't want to fuck "skanky hos" ... and now you're saying that you "love sluts." That's why I can't take you serious dude. At least half of your comments and assertions are full of inconsistencies and contradictions.
My work is done here....
You're contradicting yourself son. First you said you didn't want to fuck "skanky hos" ... and now you're saying that you "love sluts." That's why I can't take you serious dude. At least half of your comments and assertions are full of inconsistencies and contradictions.
My work is done here....
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Alan locked the thread without me getting a chance to reply. So i shall do this here:
I'm not going to quote all the stuff you said, Alan.I really can't be arsed and too be honest i'm finding myself repeating myself over and over and over.
You see the thing is, you believe Mode One is successful because you have gotten pussy from it. I can't ever dispute that because i do not know you or have never met you. But i do know one thing, from where i come from and the women i have met and dated and even failed to seduce all wanted what ihave been saying all along - SECURITY AND MONOGAMY! Ask any girl you meet about what she wants and underneath what she is saying is a biological need for security and monogamy.
Alan, you believe that what i am saying is going to lead to trouble because on one side of the coin i believe the most common type of woman is a woman seeking security and monogamy and you believe that the most common type of woman is a manipulative woman - Hense why you've created Mode One to counter balance that etc.
Do you not see what you've done, Alan? You hide behind a Mode One shell because deep down inside you believe all these big bad women are out there to manipulate you.
You're not Mode One.
Do you not see what you've done, Alan? You hide behind a Mode One shell because deep down inside you believe all these big bad women are out there to manipulate you.
You're not Mode One.
You're Mode Four.
"Mode Four Misogynist: This is a guy who started out being Mode Two with women and/or Mode Three with women, but he ended up getting disrespected and/or manipulated so frequently that now he is just bitter and resentful toward all women. He thinks all women are bitches, hos and golddiggers."
Readers can ome to their own conclusions. Maybe i'm going mad or maybe all it takes is for your to open your eyes, listen and understand the women you are really dealing with. What i do know is that what i'm doing is successful. MUCH more successful than Mode One.
But like i've said to the Mode One nut huggers on Alan's forum - They're YOUR dicks...